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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obviously, you're not understanding the redefinition of DADT that I'm proposing.
    You can't please all of the people all of the time. People will know who is gay in some instances. Are you going to require that they fake writing letters to girlfriends or wives and have pictures of them?
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    DADT would get him/her kicked out right?
    Not exactly. This has been the myth. It's the T or "tell" part that constitutes the number explosion. Nobody has asked ****. Doing so equals NJP under the law we enforce.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

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    I see the logic. It actually makes sense. Oh wait...let me play the "nu-uh" game....link?


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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Not exactly. This has been the myth. It's the T or "tell" part that constitutes the number explosion. Nobody has asked ****. Doing so equals NJP under the law we enforce.
    I think giving wedding invites to a gay wedding might be telling.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

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    Hey look, we agree on something.
    Well, we usually do. It's the perspectives that get us at odds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What you are proposing is purely senseless. When Sgt X gives the CO an invite to a marry boyfriend X that is telling.
    Well, gee ****ing willkers!!! Sgt X can't send an invitation to his commander, to attend his wedding. That would be goddamn fraternization!

    Why not just admit that you don't have enough of a clue about how the miltiary works to actually form an opinion?
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You can't please all of the people all of the time. People will know who is gay in some instances. Are you going to require that they fake writing letters to girlfriends or wives and have pictures of them?
    They will, "think", they know. As long as you quell the rumor mill, with the regulations, you will allow gays to serve and have as few problems as possible.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I think giving wedding invites to a gay wedding might be telling.
    Well, yeah, but this is an exception that sits aside from the norm that has occurred. Unfortunately there's probably not a website that displays the people who simply want out and those who screwup and break policy. The military has never and will never be exactly open about its business. We tend to have to gutter our way through to doing our jobs for the greater "good". But think about it. Unless thrown in the military's face, as if daring repercussion, what do the escalation in numbers mean probably?
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They will, "think", they know. As long as you quell the rumor mill, with the regulations, you will allow gays to serve and have as few problems as possible.
    As long as straight people can't talk about their relationships either, that sounds fair.

    It should be a real moral booster.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You can't please all of the people all of the time. People will know who is gay in some instances. Are you going to require that they fake writing letters to girlfriends or wives and have pictures of them?
    nope! My redefinition of DADT would require no one to ask and no one to tell.

    What's the problem with that? Gays not serving, "openly", enough for your politics?

    Ya'll want gays to be able to serve in the miltiary without fear of discharge. This, IMO, is the way to go about and it doesn't seem to be good enough. is it possible that this isn't just about, "gays serving in the military"? is it more about gays, "serving in the miltiary, in your face"?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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