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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No thanks. I'd rather just elect leaders who have the authority to tell you what you're going to do differently, and the moral fiber to actually do so.
    Oh.....but President Clinton told us to follow DADT. Did you elect him?

    Remember earlier when I stated that President Obama won't be quick to force the military to turn on a dime because he needs our support and you gave me the "nu-uh" attitude? Here is a third hypocracy from you. You state he compromised, but why did he have to? Could it be that the lack of support he got from the military at a time when he tossed it around the world into situations it was ill-equiped and untrained for forced it?

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Oh.....but President Clinton told us to follow DADT. Did you elect him?

    Remember earlier when I stated that President Obama won't be quick to force the military to turn on a dime because he needs our support and you gave me the "nu-uh" attitude? Here is a third hypocracy from you. You state he compromised, but why did he have to? Could it be that the lack of support he got from the military at a time when he tossed it around the world into situations it was ill-equiped and untrained for forced it?
    Loaded statement. There is no turning on a dime. This has been coming for some time. Further, the threat about needing the military's support is juvenile and not of any value.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Oh.....but President Clinton told us to follow DADT. Did you elect him?
    I wasn't old enough to vote for Clinton the first time, and I didn't give enough of a damn yet to do it the second time.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Remember earlier when I stated that President Obama won't be quick to force the military to turn on a dime because he needs our support and you gave me the "nu-uh" attitude?
    I don't see why any President needs the support of the military. If you are in the military, your job is, ultimately, to carry out the President's orders. To do otherwise falls under a host of unsavory crimes that are definite career-enders.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Here is a third hypocracy from you. You state he compromised, but why did he have to? Could it be that the lack of support he got from the military at a time when he tossed it around the world into situations it was ill-equiped and untrained for forced it?
    I don't think he had to. I think what he had to do was have the balls to tell the generals how it was going to be. He didn't have the balls, and that sucks.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Something tells me that if military personnel can take desegregation and the relative danger of their job and still do it about as well as anyone else on Earth, they can handle serving with people who are openly gay (which many of our allies already allow).
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The average military person does not understand the details of tactical readiness.
    The average military person in a tactical unit understands it.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Every stereotype is open to media ridicule. For the most part, gays are no longer the butt of jokes. In fact, mostly gay stereotypes are used by the media to highlight the stupidity of those stereotypes. There are exceptions of course, but gays are actually treated pretty well by the media, far better than the military treats them currently. The truth is, the military is way way behind the times in terms of gay issues.
    But once it enforces an end to the prejudice, it will be the civilian sector that lags. This is historical. I've shown this before.

    Next time a Republican gets outed remember what you just stated about the media treating them kindly. If sexual orientation isn't an issue of ridicule or a source of cash flow, the media wouldn't use it. And despite all stereotypes across the entertainment world, rarely has a gay ever been shown as being anything more than a princess. This is unlike other stereotypes, which are more are more then balanced out. Even the sterotype of the weak and helpless woman has an extreme source of balance of dominate and powerful heroins. Keep in mind that any dominate and powerful homosexuals you may think of (which I can't off hand) are the exception.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Really there is no need for the hyperbole. Gays would simply go in do their job like they already and everybody else does but they wouldn't have to fear being caught in a gay bar or whatever when off duty.
    All the more reason to lift the ban and keep DADT in place.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The average military person in a tactical unit understands it.
    No, not really. Civilians can, if they care to, understand tactics as well as or better than most soldiers.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    But once it enforces an end to the prejudice, it will be the civilian sector that lags. This is historical. I've shown this before.

    Next time a Republican gets outed remember what you just stated about the media treating them kindly. If sexual orientation isn't an issue of ridicule or a source of cash flow, the media wouldn't use it. And despite all stereotypes across the entertainment world, rarely has a gay ever been shown as being anything more than a princess. This is unlike other stereotypes, which are more are more then balanced out. Even the sterotype of the weak and helpless woman has an extreme source of balance of dominate and powerful heroins. Keep in mind that any dominate and powerful homosexuals you may think of (which I can't off hand) are the exception.
    The civilian sector does not discriminate against gays except very rarely. The best the military can hope to do is be as good in this area as the civilian sector.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, not really. Civilians can, if they care to, understand tactics as well as or better than most soldiers.
    I'm not talking about tactics. I'm talking about tactical readiness, basically, "what makes a tactical unit tick". The civilian that understand that is the exception, not the rule.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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