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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I never said any such thing, I defy you to prove otherwise.

    Please stop lying about me.
    You keep talking about prejudice against gays. You've never once suggested that there amy be gays who would be prejudice against straights.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    They have been stdying gays in the military for quite some time was my point. And knowing the military I'm I'm sure there is research going on right now.
    Well, it is a good point. However, it wasn't my point and I was very clear on it. The research going on right now is how best to impliment an open gay military post DADT not whether or not it is doable. Virtually all studies in the past were focused on why it can't happen. This study is very different. In the Commandants latest address to the Marines he stated that, based on his interviews and polls throughout the Corps, most Marines do not feel comfortable sharing a room with a homosexual. This isn't news. However, it very much goes into how to impliment an inevitable situation, which is what this study is about. Do you have any idea how many people think of "Just Jack" or the Birdcage when someone mentions homosexuality? Who's to blame for this? This current study is focusing on how to educate beyond the American mindset and how to jump the hurdles as painless as possible. Of course, training for our jobs in the mean time is somewhere on the list.

    Do we really need to keep doing this?

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Actually, a suspension of the ban on gays and the retention of DADT would be better. But, oh no! Ya'll don't want that ****!

    Instead, ya'll want to go off half cocked, demand that DADT be abolished, without giving a single thought to the concequences and call everyone that disagrees with you a homophobe and a bigot.
    No, I just want my military to be held to something approximating the same moral standard that I hold the rest of the nation to.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, I just want my military to be held to something approximating the same moral standard that I hold the rest of the nation to.
    Well, I hate to break it to you, but the mlitary doesn't answer to you. Sign on the dotted line and take the oath and do something about it, if you're that passionate. I dare ya!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You keep talking about prejudice against gays.
    Because DADT is the subject. That doesn't change the fact that you lied about me. Please stop lying about me.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You've never once suggested that there amy be gays who would be prejudice against straights.
    Just as, I suppose, if the subject was the inherent racism of sundown towns, it would never cross my mind to bring up that there are some minorities who don't like whites. So what?

    I never said that such a thing would be okay.

    Please stop lying about me.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, I hate to break it to you, but the mlitary doesn't answer to you.
    That doesn't mean I can't want them to be held to the same moral standard I hold the rest of the nation to.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sign on the dotted line and take the oath and do something about it, if you're that passionate. I dare ya!!
    Why, that's a great idea -- if you don't like how the military is being run, sign up for the military and be forced to live with how it's run.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Because DADT is the subject. That doesn't change the fact that you lied about me. Please stop lying about me.



    Just as, I suppose, if the subject was the inherent racism of sundown towns, it would never cross my mind to bring up that there are some minorities who don't like whites. So what?

    I never said that such a thing would be okay.

    Please stop lying about me.
    You're proving my point that you're unable to see the bigger picture. You think it's all about, "the military's attitude toward homosexuality", and that nothing else factors in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're proving my point that you're unable to see the bigger picture. You think it's all about, "the military's attitude toward homosexuality", and that nothing else factors in.
    That's actually not true, as illustrated by my brief exchange with Caine.

    Please stop lying about me.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That doesn't mean I can't want them to be held to the same moral standard I hold the rest of the nation to.
    The military exists to protect the country, not meet your--or anyone else's--moral standard.


    Why, that's a great idea -- if you don't like how the military is being run, sign up for the military and be forced to live with how it's run.
    Enlist and effect a change. Train soldier how to deal with serving with openly gay soldiers. Put up, or shut up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That's actually not true, as illustrated by my brief exchange with Caine.

    Please stop lying about me.
    I quoted you and I'm lieing? Hmmm!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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