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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I am unable to respect those members of our armed services who are unable to overcome their bigotry, hatred and fear because while they are wearing my country's uniform, they are unable to exemplify the values this country stands for.

    This would be the same reason I am unable to respect civilians with the same problem -- because each of us, in our own way, represents this country. Bigotry, hatred and fear bring shame to it.
    I think you would find that most people in the military are not that up in arms over this.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why do you disrespect our service members?
    Because if we go by what you're saying, the only people who seem to worry about who the person next to them ****s, to the point where they wouldn't be able to properly function if the person were gay, seem to be in the military. That's quite unprofessional.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think you would find that most people in the military are not that up in arms over this.
    Then I would likely have no issue whatsoever respecting most members of our armed services.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    DADT was the compromise struck because the military couldn't stand the thought of gays being allowed to serve openly. Because you guys weren't professional enough to handle it. You can justify that and rationalize that and dismiss that all you want, it just means that you are incapable of admitting that you as an organization aren't professional enough to look past someone's sexual orientation and see the soldier underneath.
    Spare me the gay parade and gain control of your emotions. Look, I don't care where you wish to place you prick. None of you matter to me nor do you matter to the most of us. You are as insiginificant to my world as the bum in the street or the banker on Wallstreet. Gays in the military were far better off without DADT. And once again, professionalism is following the policies and the orders. When those orders change, so will the military. In the mean time, our media will continue to blast homosexual Republicans in the news as if it is a shame. Television will continue to display gays as pansies in comedies. And movies will continue to place them in dresses and nail polish.

    Like I stated earlier, hate on the military all you like. In the end, it's society that prescribes the general mood. What you want is for the military to make it all better for you and you blame it for not snapping centuries of tradition in two on a whim. My guess is that you won't be the first inline to sign the dotted line anyway. Other gays and the rest of us are going to have to go through the storm for your sense of self soothing. You might as well allow us the study to figure our how best to do it.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Because if we go by what you're saying, the only people who seem to worry about who the person next to them ****s, to the point where they wouldn't be able to properly function if the person were gay, seem to be in the military. That's quite unprofessional.
    Another voice of experience. What happens when that person turns out to be gay and is a heterophobe?

    You all act as if the problem is about homophobic straights that are too prejudiced to serve with gay soldiers.

    I can't believe that people who claim to so enligthened and intelligent are having such a hard time seeing the bigger picture.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Gays in the military were far better off without DADT.
    Right, because an outright ban on serving if you're gay was so much better!

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    Like I stated earlier, hate on the military all you like.
    Feel free to continue to mischaracterize everything I've said while you're at it. It's blatantly obvious to me that honesty is not something you have any interest in, at least within the bounds of this discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    In the end, it's society that prescribes the general mood.
    Feel free to fail to take responsibility, or assign it where appropriate, for the military's attitude on homosexuality. Another example of where honesty isn't what you're aiming for.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I am unable to respect those members of our armed services who are unable to overcome their bigotry, hatred and fear because while they are wearing my country's uniform, they are unable to exemplify the values this country stands for.

    This would be the same reason I am unable to respect civilians with the same problem -- because each of us, in our own way, represents this country. Bigotry, hatred and fear bring shame to it.
    You bring your own brand of bigotry to the table, as well. You assume that straight, white male soldiers are going to the biggest part of any problems that will arise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You bring your own brand of bigotry to the table, as well. You assume that straight, white male soldiers are going to the biggest part of any problems that will arise.
    I never said any such thing, I defy you to prove otherwise.

    Please stop lying about me.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Right, because an outright ban on serving if you're gay was so much better!
    Actually, a suspension of the ban on gays and the retention of DADT would be better. But, oh no! Ya'll don't want that ****!

    Instead, ya'll want to go off half cocked, demand that DADT be abolished, without giving a single thought to the concequences and call everyone that disagrees with you a homophobe and a bigot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think you would find that most people in the military are not that up in arms over this.
    No pun intended?
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