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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let me summarize: you misinterpreted my comments.
    I'm asking Apoc for his interpretation of your comments.

    He can read, and my hand isn't up his butt.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Perhaps. They were very enthusiastic with non-judicial, non-Article 15, off-the-books motivational in-house punishment. The big ****ing E-5 Samoan was a big problem. He used to jump us and put us in sleeper holds on the line. They gang-raped a squad mate with a broom.
    Punishment of gays?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just think of it as an indication your comments are tops!

    You served in the IDF, no? Was it after gays where allowed to serve?
    Of course, I'm in my 20's.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Females have been in the ranks for over 20 years and NCO's in co-ed units are still dealing with sexual harassment, rapes and other improper conduct, rather than training their troops and getting the job done.
    To an extent yes, but it is not a large problem in the military. Unit cohesion is still strong. We have had blacks serving in mixed units for much longer than that, and yet there are still racial issues at times. It's just not that bad.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Punishment of gays?
    It was always an accusation of gravest intent. This is what they accused the guy they gang-raped.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I'm asking Apoc for his interpretation of your comments.

    He can read, and my hand isn't up his butt.
    Obviously, he misunderstood what I said, too.

    Let me say it again, the IDF hasn't been in a pitched battle, since the gay ban was lifted in 1993. Certainly nothing like the '67 war, The Yom Kippur War, or the War in Lebanon during the 80's.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Of course, I'm in my 20's.
    Do you think the US should allow gays to serve openly, and do you think it will effect unit cohesion and morale for us here? You are kinda a voice of experience.

    Also....why did I think you where much older?
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    To an extent yes, but it is not a large problem in the military. Unit cohesion is still strong. We have had blacks serving in mixed units for much longer than that, and yet there are still racial issues at times. It's just not that bad.
    There's enough concern over the issue, that it's one of the reasons that females aren't allowed to serve in combat arms units.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's enough concern over the issue, that it's one of the reasons that females aren't allowed to serve in combat arms units.
    I again do not believe that this is the case, nor have you documented the claim.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obviously, he misunderstood what I said, too.

    Let me say it again, the IDF hasn't been in a pitched battle, since the gay ban was lifted in 1993. Certainly nothing like the '67 war, The Yom Kippur War, or the War in Lebanon during the 80's.
    I agree that a massive war such as the 67' or the 73' wars were not seen in the area, but the first Lebanon war (that started in the early 80's) has ended 7 years after the ban was lifted, and it was the most prolonged war in Israel's history, way more than the six days of the six-day war, for example.
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