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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not what I said. I said they haven't been in a prolonged fight, since they lifted the ban in 1993. You're more than welcome to provide some docs that prove me wrong.
    73' war, Yom Kippur war, was the most devastating war in Israel's history, and it was after 67'.
    Besides that, the first Lebanese war was the most prolonged war Israel has had, and soldiers have had to deal with constant insurgency.
    It has went on until 2000.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And how in the hell could an activist judge know that? Gimme a break!!
    Through testimony from those on both sides. Hello....
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It has nothing to do with professionalism, or a lack there of. How many times do you have to be told that?
    What the hell do you call it when somebody's homophobia gets in the way of how they do a job as important as defense of country and freedom? You guys keep talking about how proud you are of what you do, and then you go off on how the fags are going to disrupt all that by not hiding the fact that they're fags.

    If that isn't a professionalism issue, what the bloody hell is it?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Sin? You mean the prejudice? Senior NCOs define the culture and if they say it is not acceptable to give gays a harsh time, that's the way it will be.
    NCO's say that it's unacceptable to sexually harass female soldiers, but it happens. NCO's say that it's unacceptable to assault another soldier, but it happens. NCO's say that it's unacceptable to rape another soldier, but it happens. Are you going to blame every ill, within the military on the NCO corps?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    73' war, Yom Kippur war, was the most devastating war in Israel's history, and it was after 67'.
    Besides that, the first Lebanese war was the most prolonged war Israel has had, and soldiers have had to deal with constant insurgency.
    It has went on until 2000.
    You could argue that Israel has been in prolonged low level conflict for quite a few years actually.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post

    If that isn't a professionalism issue, what the bloody hell is it?
    Homophobia bigotry.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Way to duck his question.
    Way to stick your nose into other peoples business. You can join him.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    73' war, Yom Kippur war, was the most devastating war in Israel's history, and it was after 67'.
    Besides that, the first Lebanese war was the most prolonged war Israel has had, and soldiers have had to deal with constant insurgency.
    It has went on until 2000.
    I never said otherwise. Please, read what I wrote, not what someone says I wrote.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    73' war, Yom Kippur war, was the most devastating war in Israel's history, and it was after 67'.
    Besides that, the first Lebanese war was the most prolonged war Israel has had, and soldiers have had to deal with constant insurgency.
    It has went on until 2000.
    Okay. How about since Israel changed its policy on gays in the IDF in the early 90s? Has the IDF seen what you would classify as prolonged combat (or "real" combat) since then?

    I'm asking because I have no idea, and apdst isn't going to listen to whatever I research and present, so I'd rather get your take.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    What the hell do you call it when somebody's homophobia gets in the way of how they do a job as important as defense of country and freedom? You guys keep talking about how proud you are of what you do, and then you go off on how the fags are going to disrupt all that by not hiding the fact that they're fags.

    If that isn't a professionalism issue, what the bloody hell is it?
    Don't blame the military. Blame society.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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