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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Then, why are you calling the people that do have the experience that we disagree with you, because we're just a buncha homophobes?
    Because he is simple in thought and childish.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    If it isn't homophobia or prejudice, tell me what, exactly, about gays serving openly would cause problems in the military.
    Our culture has alot to do with it. The same reason it's not a good idea for females to serve in combat arms units. heterophobia probably has as much to do with it, as anything else.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Well, it comes down to society. Homosexuality is far more accepted in other societies. Hate our military with all your might, but it merely reflects our society.
    I don't hate the military. I'm disappointed in them.

    That said, I will ask the question one more time: is the reason that unit cohesion would be impacted by gays serving openly the fact that our military isn't professional enough to set aside personal prejudice in the name of serving their country?
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    There just wouldn't be a problem with gays serving openly, if it wasn't for the prejudice of the senior NCOs.
    A bit more complicated than just blaming senior non-commissioned officers for a society's sin.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Our culture has alot to do with it. The same reason it's not a good idea for females to serve in combat arms units. heterophobia probably has as much to do with it, as anything else.
    That sounds like homophobia and prejudice which is so strong that your professionalism fails to suppress it.

    If that's not what it is, I need you to explain it. Please. Otherwise, you're just saying the same thing in several different ways while denying that you're saying it.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I don't hate the military. I'm disappointed in them.
    Then, you need to enlist and fix things.

    That said, I will ask the question one more time: is the reason that unit cohesion would be impacted by gays serving openly the fact that our military isn't professional enough to set aside personal prejudice in the name of serving their country?
    It has nothing to do with professionalism, or a lack there of. How many times do you have to be told that?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Frankly unit cohesion could only be undermined by people who hate gays. Ive seen a flaming homo during basic in the bay a floor beneath us and nobody seemed to mind him much.
    The court ruling addressed the issue of unit cohesion and rules that in fact DADT undermined unit cohesion. Seriously, people should read the actual ruling that is the topic of discussion.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Because he is simple in thought and childish.
    Because his reading comprehension is strong. I'm basing my approach on what you guys have said in this thread.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    A bit more complicated than just blaming senior non-commissioned officers for a society's sin.
    Sin? You mean the prejudice? Senior NCOs define the culture and if they say it is not acceptable to give gays a harsh time, that's the way it will be.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The court ruling addressed the issue of unit cohesion and rules that in fact DADT undermined unit cohesion. Seriously, people should read the actual ruling that is the topic of discussion.
    And how in the hell could an activist judge know that? Gimme a break!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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