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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Lawrence versus Texas.

    Case closed.

    People tend to forget that sodomy was ruled as Constitutionally protected after DADT was implemented. The old uniform codes have no standing. DADT was the only thing left.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Lawrence versus Texas.

    Case closed.

    People tend to forget that sodomy was ruled as Constitutionally protected after DADT was implemented. The old uniform codes have no standing. DADT was the only thing left.
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    One person's sodomy is another person's good time!
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Lawrence versus Texas.

    Case closed.

    People tend to forget that sodomy was ruled as Constitutionally protected after DADT was implemented. The old uniform codes have no standing. DADT was the only thing left.
    When I was growing up here in Texas we use to joke about BJs being illegal.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Are there any valid reasons to keep DADT in place?
    Not really. The ongoing military inquiries are more about how to do deal with its abolishment rather than whether it should be abolished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Not really. The ongoing military inquiries are more about how to do deal with its abolishment rather than whether it should be abolished.
    And, I'm thinking that the Lefties aren't going to be real happy with the conclusions they come to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    none of those reasons seem completely valid or logical to me.
    Consider what you are basing your opinion on. Is it based on any soldier/Marine experience? These are very logical reasons for this part of the military. It is so logical that even President Obama can appreciate that the military needed time to adapt and to make a plan for the future. We aren't talking about a few civilian co-workers in Wal-Mart who have to tolerate each other for 9 hours a day if their shifts coincide. We are talking about a 24 hour closeness and comraderie in a couple alpha male military organizations that simply do not see homosexuality as manly. It's a matter of adjusting to new traditional definitions.

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    I highly doubt most commanders would not like the idea of Gays serving openly, from what I have heard many actually would like to see it repealed.
    It's not a matter of "liking" it (and most do not). It's about accepting the inevitable.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Why is it that you can train an individual to become a professional dispenser of death and destruction in a handful of months, but figuring out the best way to deal with gay people takes years?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, I'm thinking that the Lefties aren't going to be real happy with the conclusions they come to.
    Well, the Left is a fickle bunch mostly concerned with ideology and fantastical dreams of utopia. They will always find something to be unhappy about. But I'm not so sure that DADT is going to last much longer. I'd have to place two bets on this one...

    1) DADT will not go away, but be redefined. I say this because part of me doesn't believe that Obama wants to risk a rift between him and the military, especially in a time of war where he needs our support. With Clinton as an example and a recentfiring of a General for being less than professional, it's seems more than possible that this issue will be left for the next President.

    2) DADT will go away because the Marine Corps and Army have been accepting the inevitable as today's generation of youthful recruits are far more tolerant of what has been blasted at them. Consider what homosexuality was on television and film in the 80s versus how it is portrayed today. There's also the fact that the flamboyant "Just Jacks" of Will and Grace are only found in the Navy and Air Force. The typical gay that joins the Army or Marine Corps blends in. Of course, serving open will change a few things, but like I stated, recruits since the mid-nineties have been different than past generations.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Why is it that you can train an individual to become a professional dispenser of death and destruction in a handful of months, but figuring out the best way to deal with gay people takes years?
    Yep. I guess teaching someone how to dehumanize people so you can kill them is easier than making sure that you and your comrades in arms treat each other with respect and dignity.
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