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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    It was only a matter of time. Anyone with half a brain has known for sometime that DADT was on it's way out, and rightfully so.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    THE PURPOSE OF AN ARMED FORCE IS TO DEFEND THE REALM AND GO 'ROUND THE WORLD BLASTING THE BADDIES. IT'S NOT TO ACT AS WET NURSE TO A BUNCH OF SHOULDER-BECHIPPED BENDERS WHO INSIST ON THRUSTING THEIR SEXUAL PROCLIVITIES INTO THE WORLD'S FACE!
    Did you miss the part where a soldier whom acts completely professional on base can be discharged for their lawful actions off base, even if it's someone looking through their window and seeing a marriage certificate.

    It has nothing to do with being PC and everything to do with allowing soldiers to soldier without having to worry about someone seeing their private life.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Did you miss the part where a soldier whom acts completely professional on base can be discharged for their lawful actions off base, even if it's someone looking through their window and seeing a marriage certificate.

    It has nothing to do with being PC and everything to do with allowing soldiers to soldier without having to worry about someone seeing their private life.
    So, the DoD should do away with the regulation that prohibits adultry, too?

    These regulations are in place a reason, not just to be mean to certain people. You do understand that. Yes?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    And that's another thing - Private Life.

    I couldn't say the Army was very private. And homosexuality being what it is, I'm not surprised soldiers would at the very least feel very uncomfortable at the idea of Pte. Privates wittering on about his man pussy off base.

    As long as you do your job and don't make waves, certainly. But making a big bloody performance out of it by indulging in gay marches and the like? Blows that right of the water.



    What's more, there have been disgusting cases regarding STRAIGHT servicemen and other public servants being FORCED to indulge the gay love-in and being punished for refusing.

    http://marquesate.wordpress.com/2008...rch-in-london/

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle619816.ece

    There's no choice any more - you have to do the gay lobby's bidding else you're for it!



    And as for the hypocritical leftist cry of 'if you don't like it then GTFO'? I don't hear them saying that to the likes of the extremist or pushy Muslims!
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, the DoD should do away with the regulation that prohibits adultry, too?

    These regulations are in place a reason, not just to be mean to certain people. You do understand that. Yes?
    The DoD prohibits adultery? You learn something new everyday.

    But yes, it should be done away with, as long as a soldiers private life has no impact on their service, I don't see why it should be prohibited, if the soldier commits adultery on base, yes, there should be a punishment, if it is in no way connected to their service, it shouldn't be a problem, same with being gay, if they flirt with a fellow soldier, they should be punished, if they're seen in public by their superior, off-duty, holding hands with their spouse, I don't see why they should be discharged for that.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    true story. Picture it. San Vito Air Station, Italy, 1988. Two young staff Sergeants. These two ladies are roommates. Both are Russian Linguists working at the base. For whatever reason, someone decided that the little air station had not had any real scandals recently, and began a witch hunt. There were more service members involved, but I only personally knew the 2 women, so I wont comment on any of the others. One of these airmen had been airman of the quarter 3 times, in the previous year, and had just recently been declared airman of the year. Her military record was exemplary, and every review she had received had been glowing in every respect. The other woman, while not quite the perfect airman as the first, had never been in trouble, and performed her duties admirably. Someone thought that maybe these two young ladies were a tad closer than simple roommates. Accusations were made, inquiries were made..In the end, both ladies were forced out of the military, and the air force lost 2 russian linguists at a time when this was a shortage career field. Someone please explain to me, how this was GOOD for the military? Tell me how it is EVER good to force out good, honest, hard working people?
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    The DoD prohibits adultery? You learn something new everyday.
    I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall the UCMJ classifies every sexual act between a man and woman other than coitus in the missionary position as sodomy. Obviously, this isn't enforced terribly often.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    The DoD prohibits adultery? You learn something new everyday.

    But yes, it should be done away with, as long as a soldiers private life has no impact on their service, I don't see why it should be prohibited, if the soldier commits adultery on base, yes, there should be a punishment, if it is in no way connected to their service, it shouldn't be a problem, same with being gay, if they flirt with a fellow soldier, they should be punished, if they're seen in public by their superior, off-duty, holding hands with their spouse, I don't see why they should be discharged for that.
    The UCMJ article prohibiting adultery is VERY specific. You are not going to be court martialed just for having a one night stand.
    Elements.

    (1) That the accused wrongfully had sexual intercourse with a certain person;

    (2) That, at the time, the accused or the other person was married to someone else; and

    (3) That, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.

    there is much much more to it, of course, I just posted that quickly. It is easy enough to look up the entire article. Just do a google on UCMJ adultery
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    ....and began a witch hunt.
    We're not talking witch hunts.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    The DoD prohibits adultery? You learn something new everyday.

    But yes, it should be done away with, as long as a soldiers private life has no impact on their service, I don't see why it should be prohibited, if the soldier commits adultery on base, yes, there should be a punishment, if it is in no way connected to their service, it shouldn't be a problem, same with being gay, if they flirt with a fellow soldier, they should be punished, if they're seen in public by their superior, off-duty, holding hands with their spouse, I don't see why they should be discharged for that.
    Until, the company commander is ****ing the wife of one his platoon sargeants. Then it can become a problem.

    These regulations are in place, to keep good order among the ranks, for the good of the service. Not to discriminate against anyone.

    Good order, morale and discipline take priority over political correctness. People's lives are at stake.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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