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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    To hear him tell it, he likes being used and abused and being paid for it.

    Personally, if I were inclined that way, I'd find me a fetish club.
    Apparently the benefits outweigh the costs. Otherwise he wouldn't reenlist unless he just wants to be a recipient of pity.

    Parts of my job suck, too. Not enough to make me want to leave it though, so it's really not that bad.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You know what I found shocking about this thread?

    I haven't see anybody yarking about how we as a nation are all concerned about pissing Muslims off by burning the Koran, but we aren't concerned about pissing Muslims off by letting our gay soldiers serve openly.




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    Who doesn't think you can compare the two, but expected somebody to...
    I always thought that the best way to intimidate the Islamist terrorists is to tell them if they are caught they would be guarded by openly gay men or lesbians.



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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    That would be epic.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I always thought that the best way to intimidate the Islamist terrorists is to tell them if they are caught they would be guarded by openly gay men or lesbians.
    I believe I'd pay to see that.

    Only thing that would be better is if they had Paris Hilton-esque chihuahuas to use for interrogations.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    You signed up for it voluntarily, and apparently repeatedly.
    I got no problem with the military. It's the lack of civilian honor, integrity and complete ignorance in this country that dissapoints me. "Support the Troop" is a civilian disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    I got no problem with the military. It's the lack of civilian honor, integrity and complete ignorance in this country that dissapoints me. "Support the Troop" is a civilian disgrace.
    Ah, right. Us versus them. Civilians are ungrateful pukes, etc.

    You've just demonstrated one reason we have civilian control over the military.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    To hear him tell it, he likes being used and abused and being paid for it.

    Personally, if I were inclined that way, I'd find me a fetish club.
    And where have I stated that I like being abused? I like the adventure of my job. It doesn't mean that I'm stupid enough to believe that the politicians of this country deserve the military they have. Or that they know what they are doing on a daily basis. You see, I make it a point to understand my role and the enemy I face. You would think politicians would at least do the same as they haphazardly run this country into the dirt. You like how they are running this country down? This is your kind. Not mine. Most Americans don't deserve what they have. They were merely born lucky and live their lives celebrating their ignorance and stupidity.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Ah, right. Us versus them. Civilians are ungrateful pukes, etc.

    You've just demonstrated one reason we have civilian control over the military.
    Well, pukes anyway. Plenty pukes are greatful. And it's civilian control over the military that has screwed everything up since WWII. Congratulations.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    The ruling: http://www.cacd.uscourts.gov/CACD/Re...29-Opinion.pdf

    I am not a legal expert, but the reasoning looks sound to me. I repeat though that I am not a legal expert.

    The ruling is fascinating reading, if just for the stories of several people who where witnesses that where discharged due to DADT. A couple of the stories are insane...

    Once assigned as kennel support to the canine unit and under Chief Petty Officer Toussaint's command, Rocha was hazed and harassed constantly, to an unconscionable degree and in shocking fashion. When the eighteen-year-old Rocha declined to participate in the unit's practice of visiting prostitutes, he was taunted, asked if he was a "faggot," and told to prove his heterosexuality by consorting with prostitutes.

    ...

    Toussaint ordered all of the other men in the unit to beat Rocha on the latter's nineteenth birthday.

    ...

    On another occasion, Toussaint had Rocha leashed like a dog, paraded around the grounds in front of other soldiers, tied to a chair, forcefed dog food, and left in a dog kennel covered with feces."
    Note that the above story has little bearing on DADT itself, and I think such hazing mostly does not happen any more...but good god people.

    An example of how easy it is to get discharged under DADT:

    The rumor originated because, while off duty one day in January 2002, Nicholson was writing a letter to a man with whom he had a relationship before joining the Army; Nicholson was writing the letter in Portuguese to prevent other servicemembers from reading it, because it contained references that could reveal Nicholson's sexual orientation. (Trial Tr. 1134:10-23, 1161:10-1163:7, July 20, 2010.) Despite Nicholson's precautions, another servicemember caught sight of the letter while chatting with Nicholson. (Id.) After the two had been talking for a few minutes, Nicholson realized she was one of the few persons he knew in the Army who also could also read Portuguese;
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Well, pukes anyway. Plenty pukes are greatful. And it's civilian control over the military that has screwed everything up since WWII. Congratulations. This country needs a coup.
    I rest my case.

    I would imagine a nearby shrink would be able to help a person with grandiose delusions such as these.

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