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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    Put that in my unit and I'm dropping out of the military as soon as we hookup!
    I'd have to say that would easily be worth a court martial.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I still doubt that id you're in a combat situation that the one thing on your mind will be if the bloke in front of you has a nice arse.
    Think deeper (or at least honestly). Before combat, units must be cohesive and they must train in order to work as one mind. This is not something that you can simply flip a switch on and expect roads of gold. You will not find a more alpha male society than the U.S. Army and Marine Corps. Embracing the homosexual in the Fire Team will take time and much friction. All of this has to happen before they get into combat.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I think your underestimating the amount of sex straight people can have.
    No way! Not compared to gay men at least. I'm sure there is data out there, but meh, I don't really care. It just makes sense though right? Put my brain into "attracted to men" mode, with other men thinking the same way .... I would get laid 10-20 times a weekend.

    I'm friends with a gay man, he tells me stories .... Lets just say that gay men (who frequent gay bars) are living the dream. [other than the man on man part lol]

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That is correct. Do you understand why females aren't allowed to serve in combat arms units? It is to prevent fratrnization among the soldiers of that unit, which would probably cause a breakdown in discipline.
    I am pretty sure that is not the rationale used. I believe it has more to do with not wanting women in combat than worrying about fraternization. I am sure you will have no problem backing up that statement though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    No way! Not compared to gay men at least. I'm sure there is data out there, but meh, I don't really care. It just makes sense though right? Put my brain into "attracted to men" mode, with other men thinking the same way .... I would get laid 10-20 times a weekend.

    I'm friends with a gay man, he tells me stories .... Lets just say that gay men (who frequent gay bars) are living the dream. [other than the man on man part lol]
    Actually, it doesn't make sense.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Think deeper (or at least honestly). Before combat, units must be cohesive and they must train in order to work as one mind. This is not something that you can simply flip a switch on and expect roads of gold. You will not find a more alpha male society than the U.S. Army and Marine Corps. Embracing the homosexual in the Fire Team will take time and much friction. All of this has to happen before they get into combat.
    The part I bolded made me laugh.

    As you yourself have in a way pointed out before, gays who choose to serve in the army and in particular the marines will be very much that alpha male type. You are not going to see some limp wristed femme gay wanting to serve in the army or marines, nor would they succeed. Further, it's not expected they "embrace" gays, only tolerate and work with. The full esprit de corpes will come in short order after that.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    What is it today, nobody can stay on topic??

    The point being made that I'm responding to - work off of that. NOTHING to do with whether gays are born <cough> they are </cough>. Has to do with the argument given as to why they shouldn't be allowed to serve side-by-side.
    You were foolish enough to try and compare homosexuality to gender. I simply proved your comparison false. If you want to yell at people to stay on topic, try looking in the mirror.
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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Why are people even debating this?

    The issue is settled. Whether you believe homosexuality is a sin, a character flaw, a mental disorder, an addiction, etc. and whether you believe that gays will be a distraction in the military, that this is an act of "social engineering", etc., it doesn't change the one fact that matters.

    DADT was UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

    The military cannot infringe upon our basic Constitutional rights whether we are gay or straight. The military exists to protect our Constitutional rights, as well as to protect us from foreign threats.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Sex is a genetic trait, not gender.
    Wrong again.

    a. The condition of being female or male; sex.

    That is a genetic trait.

    gender - definition of gender by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

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    Re: Dont ask Dont tell Policy Ruled Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Why are people even debating this?

    The issue is settled. Whether you believe homosexuality is a sin, a character flaw, a mental disorder, an addiction, etc. and whether you believe that gays will be a distraction in the military, that this is an act of "social engineering", etc., it doesn't change the one fact that matters.

    DADT was UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

    The military cannot infringe upon our basic Constitutional rights whether we are gay or straight. The military exists to protect our Constitutional rights, as well as to protect us from foreign threats.
    lol Because one judge says so? Ever heard of appeals?

    Scream and rant all you like. There is a process to follow.
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