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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Got an example or just an ad hom?
    I'm just pushing your button. But like this situation, do you believe the Constitution is carved in stone? Do you believe the burning of Qurans or any holy book of any kind is equivalent to yelling Fire! in a theater? Should our amendment rights have 'some exceptions'? Some people based on their ethical standards, believe there should be. Do you think being 'progressive' fits that viewpoint? Or do you just believe that it is just a personal moral standard? People are split on how they view progressives. I want to know your view.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    What you're not getting is that Pastor Mustache and his pyro squad becomes a symbol for firing up their fringe.
    The Islamo-looney tunes would have found something to launch into psychotic violence about - they always do.

    Remember, for example, the debacle over Gillian Gibbons' teddy bear?!


    Mohammed teddy bear teacher, Gillian Gibbons, is spared lash but gets 15 days in jail - Times Online

    Thousands of Islamic fanatics wielding knives demand jailed teddy bear teacher is executed | Mail Online

    Like many Liberals, she reckoned on this fantasy image of a benign and open-minded Religion of Peace. Instead she faced the full force of its savagery.





    GETTIN' ON DOWN TO SOUTH PARK AND MEET SOME FRIENDS OF MINE!

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    .....purge our country of Islam.
    Mmmmm! Something to at least threaten when things get even worse down the line. Leave the Muslims alone but ditch the Religion of Hate as an officially recognised death cult.

    maybe with that sanction hanging over them, the so-called moderates will get off their backsides and flush the extremists out and off to jail. Indeed, they're quick to bitch over everything else, like the West is some huge hotel at their service.


    Gang shoot-outs and Islamic rioting here????
    In England and Europe. Barbaric Muslims have regularly set Europe ablaze in their deranged supremacist fury. We only have to think of Paris (THREE times!), Antwerp or Athens for example.

    France stunned by rioters’ savagery - Times Online

    Belgium: Muslim riots, Jewish neighborhood sealed - Jihad Watch
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    And who are you? Somebody who holds more weight on opinions than General Patreaus or plenty of military members across the branches?
    What has, the General done to make us think that?

    I don't know the guy, I've read a lot by and about him and I've read Kilcullen, but I don't see brilliance. What has he done?

    Competent, yes and another thing, he did not invent COIN and he did not write the book.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    How dare you? You are talking to a Master Sgt. who has been there.
    I'm not here for you or many others nor do, we need a "dude" telling us how we need to post. Use the ****in' breadcrumbs to wipe the sand out and put some vagisil in it. This is a discussion board, not a menu for your whiny ass to pick from.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I'm not here for you or many others nor do, we need a "dude" telling us how we need to post. Use the ****in' breadcrumbs to wipe the sand out and put some vagisil in it. This is a discussion board, not a menu for your whiny ass to pick from.
    What are you talking about? Dana was just sticking up for some one who was getting called out for not being a real Marine.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Counterinsurgency Warfare: Theory and Practice - David Galula, 1963


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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    American! And proud of it! You?



    So all Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Air Force think exactly the same as you? No said they had more knowledge than General Petreaus, that is a strawman argument.



    More than I would like due to them starting this war.



    Such as whom? Or is this like an Obama argument, just throw out a high percentage without naming any?



    And mine around the cowardice of appeasement.



    And they force compliance through threat.



    Those 'backwoods ignorant Christian hicks' as you so kindly put it, are the Mom's, Dad's, brothers, sisters, friends, Husband's and Wives of those serving with you, and their right to burn the book should be what you are defending just as much as you are defending the Islamic world here. Your disdain for your fellow countrymen speaks volumes Sarge.



    And what will be the silly excuse they use next week?



    Yes.



    That is a disgusting statement about people over there trying to do no more than help.



    Maybe you are in the wrong business if you are that scared.



    The Pastor is not a military chaplain as far as I know, so your observation means little.



    And when is it that you see disrespect to the wider core of our relations? Hmmmm? Building a Mosque of Conquest, then issuing a threat when confronted in an interview? Does that get your Marine hackles up?



    Do you believe in God?



    Really? You're offensive, and I would ask you to state why you would say such an untrue, inflammatory thing?



    So your sympathy's lay with Islam do they?



    it is Muslims that waged war with the US in the name of Islam.



    pathetic, and unearned rights? You are a poser. NOT ONE MARINE I KNOW would EVER show such disdain for the constitution as you do. So you have outed yourself, and just another internet wannabe.



    Nonsense, "Your kind" will pop open another bag of popcorn, and flip in a good war movie, and fantasize about being that which you can never be. A Marine.


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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    How dare you? You are talking to a Master Sgt. who has been there. I have my differences with him too, from time to time, but I will never denigrate his service to our country. He IS a Marine and a damn good one too. You should be ashamed of yourself. How ****ing dare you?

    Msgt - Thank you for your service.

    How dare me? how dare you. I served in the military, thankfully before any of this war with Muslim terror happened, but never the less, I stand by what I said. Here, I'll repeat it for you and for any who may be reading my words, and I'll re word it slightly.

    I don't know MSgt personally, and for some of the things he posts, I agree with, some I don't. But as I said, No actual Marine that I know, or have ever met in my lifetime, (And I have met alot of them) would EVER speak with such contempt of their own country, or countrymen. It's not some wishy washy, grey area, nuanced thing with Marines. And they don't bow to Islam because they think that some will step up attacks against the US, US civilians, or themselves. They certainly would not talk of rights, as "pathetic", or "unearned"..... See they understand what inalienable means, as in the very definition of the word "Not to be separated, given away, or taken away"....As the Bill of Rights says, "Granted by our Creator"! Not earned as the so called MSgt writes. A true marine would know that the Marine Creed of Corps, God, and Country are what a Marine cares about. Notice God in that, not Allah. Take a gander at what each and every Marine vows to as an oath upon entering to become a Marine...Oath - Marine Corps Read it! Tell me in that where it says that we shouldn't anger, or appease our enemies, because I'd sure like to see that one.

    I don't denigrate anyone's service to their country, and stand proud of our military, so much so that I served for 6 years. Did you ever don the uniform Dana? Ever spend even one iota of a second in the field next to an M16? I don't think so, you can't even be honest about your affiliation on some political message board, what would lead anyone to believe that you have the integrity to be a US service member?

    As I said I don't know MSgt personally, and am making my evaluation based on his words in the post I felt I needed to post to, if he indeed is no poser then at the very least he is in serious need of a re evaluation of Corps principles and honor.

    As I said Dana, I can't imagine any true Marine talking as he did in that post of his dripping with appeasement to the enemy, and outright disdain for the American people, and the Constitution he is sworn to defend. That is just the bottom line. You don't like it? Pfft, so what. When you find your own integrity you can come question mine, until then I have said my peace.


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    PS note: I am not attacking anyone, nor am I doing anything other than questioning the words that I believe are antithetical to what any particular poster represents themselves as. If a mod feels that I need be banned from a thread because of it, so be it, but my words are not a personal attack on anyone, I don't know anyone to personally attack them. But what they say in here should be read and questioned with critical thinking, that often leads to offense being taken. it just is.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How dare me? how dare you. I served in the military, thankfully before any of this war with Muslim terror happened, but never the less, I stand by what I said. Here, I'll repeat it for you and for any who may be reading my words, and I'll re word it slightly.

    I don't know MSgt personally, and for some of the things he posts, I agree with, some I don't. But as I said, No actual Marine that I know, or have ever met in my lifetime, (And I have met alot of them) would EVER speak with such contempt of their own country, or countrymen. It's not some wishy washy, grey area, nuanced thing with Marines. And they don't bow to Islam because they think that some will step up attacks against the US, US civilians, or themselves. They certainly would not talk of rights, as "pathetic", or "unearned"..... See they understand what inalienable means, as in the very definition of the word "Not to be separated, given away, or taken away"....As the Bill of Rights says, "Granted by our Creator"! Not earned as the so called MSgt writes. A true marine would know that the Marine Creed of Corps, God, and Country are what a Marine cares about. Notice God in that, not Allah. Take a gander at what each and every Marine vows to as an oath upon entering to become a Marine...Oath - Marine Corps Read it! Tell me in that where it says that we shouldn't anger, or appease our enemies, because I'd sure like to see that one.

    I don't denigrate anyone's service to their country, and stand proud of our military, so much so that I served for 6 years. Did you ever don the uniform Dana? Ever spend even one iota of a second in the field next to an M16? I don't think so, you can't even be honest about your affiliation on some political message board, what would lead anyone to believe that you have the integrity to be a US service member?

    As I said I don't know MSgt personally, and am making my evaluation based on his words in the post I felt I needed to post to, if he indeed is no poser then at the very least he is in serious need of a re evaluation of Corps principles and honor.

    As I said Dana, I can't imagine any true Marine talking as he did in that post of his dripping with appeasement to the enemy, and outright disdain for the American people, and the Constitution he is sworn to defend. That is just the bottom line. You don't like it? Pfft, so what. When you find your own integrity you can come question mine, until then I have said my peace.


    j-mac

    PS note: I am not attacking anyone, nor am I doing anything other than questioning the words that I believe are antithetical to what any particular poster represents themselves as. If a mod feels that I need be banned from a thread because of it, so be it, but my words are not a personal attack on anyone, I don't know anyone to personally attack them. But what they say in here should be read and questioned with critical thinking, that often leads to offense being taken. it just is.
    Nah, you are a fake.

    How did YOU like that. I bet you didn't. And by the way, I just said that to make a point. Thank you for your service.

    And no, I never had the privilege of serving. They wouldn't let me in. I had a skull fracture from a car accident. I still have a small dent in the back of my head from it. It was fully healed by the time I tried to join, but they wouldn't take me. I always thought the Army took EVERYBODY. I ended up 4-F.

    I am the only member of my family who hasn't served, though. One of my brothers was a First Sgt. in the Gulf War.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    I thought this Bill Hicks quote was pertinent...

    "..you never see my attitude in the press, that's what bugs me. You never see my point of view. For instance, gays in the military. Now, I dunno how y'all feel about it... here's how I feel about it: Anyone dumb enough to want to be in the military should be allowed in. End of ****ing story. That should be the only requirement. I don't care how many push ups you can do, put on a helmet, go wait in that foxhole we'll tell you when we need you to kill somebody. You know i'm sick of hearing military guys saying "The esprit de corps will be affected, and we are such a moral..." Excuse me, aren't y'all hired ****ing killers? Shut up! You are thugs and when we need you to go blow the **** outta a nation of little brown people we'll let you know. Until then... Where do the ****ing military get all these morals? "We are the military; is that a village of children and kids? Where's the napalm? (explosion) I don't want any gay people hanging around me when I'm killing women and kids. I just dont wanna see it."

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