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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    This individual has received way too much attention from the media. He is being given political power and sway that he does not deserve, to the point where his actions are affecting high level responses in the White House and from NYC where the community centre is being built.

    The only thing this story has done has made me hate the mainstream media more than I already do. Their obsession with salaciousness has become an infectious disease. People need to stop focusing on whackjobs who are exercising their freedom of speech and they need to get back to real journalism.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    ....his actions are affecting high level responses in the White House and from NYC where the community centre is being built.
    Good! Everybody else opposing seems to have been contemptuously ignored.

    Force the buggers to face up to the groundswell, that's what I say. The medium by which this happens doesn't really matter now.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    No. None of our enemies have ever fought us with our own weapons. Few have even involved NATO weapons. Soviet Bloc weapons are the weapon of choice in most countries because they are cheap, easily manufactured, and interchangeable. Those allies we do supply weapons to rarely come from our inventory and we have never had to face them.

    During my time in Somalia and after 5 months of captured weapons cahes, we only came across one M16 and it was dated pre 1984 (M16A1).

    Whew. Then all the weapons and ammo identified here must be fake. That's a relief.

    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Troops are not going to be in anymore danger then they already are because of some bull**** book burning from some civs

    Remember, the 10 members of a medical team (unarmed) that were shot and killed by militants as they were returning from providing eye treatment and other health care in remote villages in northern A-stan? The Taliban are butchers with no honor and kill without remorse to further their extremist goals.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Troops are not going to be in anymore danger then they already are because of some bull**** book burning from some civs
    And who are you? Somebody who holds more weight on opinions than General Patreaus or plenty of military members across the branches? Somebody who has a clue about the culture of our enemy? Somebody who trumps the cultural experts who study this enemy almost daily? You clearly don't understand this enemy. Our (my) enemy designs their behaviors around excuses. They recruit on excuses. Burning a bunch of Qur'ans on international television may bring joy to a bunch of backwood ignorant Christian hicks, but it will be yet another excuse for plenty to take up arms and join the fight against our troops who are seen as representing these book burners.

    A simple cartoon ignited a storm across the world in protest and murder. We can blame the idiots within Islam for over reacting all we want, but in the end it was stupid civilians who provided the ammunition for others to die And for what? In the name of exercising a stupid "right" to aggravate our (my) enemy? My kind are targetted. Not the cartoonists. None of these cowardly book burners will have to face the enemy they enrage.

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Remember, the 10 members of a medical team (unarmed) that were shot and killed by militants as they were returning from providing eye treatment and other health care in remote villages in northern A-stan? The Taliban are butchers with no honor and kill without remorse to further their extremist goals.
    Death in war happens. They got caught by the enemy in a combat zone and paid the price. Paganistic Qur'an burning on U.S. soil is feul and will see great recruitment throughout the region just on that unnecessary fact. Such activity is forbidden inside the military, especially in these foreign lands, for a very specific reason. It is not only unproffessional and disrespectful to the wider core of our Muslim support, but it inflames an already pissed off enemy who seeks the next excuse to legitmize his "defense."

    And make no mistake. It is as paganistic as any ancient ritual designed to display just how far the faithful will go to defend God or to condemn an enemy of God. These American ****s are no different from the 9/11 terrorists. They just haven't been pushed as far. You want a war with all of Islam? Start burning the Qur'an as a stupid excuse to celebrate pathetic unearned rights. Of course, my kind will do the dying for such trifle and unnecessary activities so what do the righteous safe at home in front of their religious camp fires care.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    Good! Everybody else opposing seems to have been contemptuously ignored.

    Force the buggers to face up to the groundswell, that's what I say. The medium by which this happens doesn't really matter now.
    What Pastor McBurnsalot is doing is going to result in more troop deaths.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    The Islamonuts need no excuse to attack the soldiers. They would have done it whether a book was burned or not.


    I do support the troops, though I believe they would be better off deployed back home to deal with the gang shoot-outs and Islamic rioting here.

    They could do with being paid well and given proper equipment which actually works too.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    And who are you?

    American! And proud of it! You?

    Somebody who holds more weight on opinions than General Patreaus or plenty of military members across the branches?
    So all Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Air Force think exactly the same as you? No said they had more knowledge than General Petreaus, that is a strawman argument.

    Somebody who has a clue about the culture of our enemy?
    More than I would like due to them starting this war.

    Somebody who trumps the cultural experts who study this enemy almost daily?
    Such as whom? Or is this like an Obama argument, just throw out a high percentage without naming any?

    Our (my) enemy designs their behaviors around excuses.
    And mine around the cowardice of appeasement.

    They recruit on excuses.
    And they force compliance through threat.

    Burning a bunch of Qur'ans on international television may bring joy to a bunch of backwood ignorant Christian hicks, but it will be yet another excuse for plenty to take up arms and join the fight against our troops who are seen as representing these book burners.
    Those 'backwoods ignorant Christian hicks' as you so kindly put it, are the Mom's, Dad's, brothers, sisters, friends, Husband's and Wives of those serving with you, and their right to burn the book should be what you are defending just as much as you are defending the Islamic world here. Your disdain for your fellow countrymen speaks volumes Sarge.

    It is not only unproffessional and disrespectful to the wider core of our Muslim support, but it inflames an already pissed off enemy who seeks the next excuse to legitmize his "defense."
    And what will be the silly excuse they use next week?

    Death in war happens.
    Yes.

    They got caught by the enemy in a combat zone and paid the price.
    That is a disgusting statement about people over there trying to do no more than help.

    Paganistic Qur'an burning on U.S. soil is feul and will see great recruitment throughout the region just on that unnecessary fact.
    Maybe you are in the wrong business if you are that scared.

    Such activity is forbidden inside the military, especially in these foreign lands, for a very specific reason.
    The Pastor is not a military chaplain as far as I know, so your observation means little.

    It is not only unproffessional and disrespectful to the wider core of our Muslim support, but it inflames an already pissed off enemy who seeks the next excuse to legitmize his "defense."
    And when is it that you see disrespect to the wider core of our relations? Hmmmm? Building a Mosque of Conquest, then issuing a threat when confronted in an interview? Does that get your Marine hackles up?

    And make no mistake. It is as paganistic as any ancient ritual designed to display just how far the faithful will go to defend God or to condemn an enemy of God.
    Do you believe in God?

    These American ****s are no different from the 9/11 terrorists.
    Really? You're offensive, and I would ask you to state why you would say such an untrue, inflammatory thing?

    They just haven't been pushed as far.
    So your sympathy's lay with Islam do they?

    You want a war with all of Islam?
    it is Muslims that waged war with the US in the name of Islam.

    Start burning the Qur'an as a stupid excuse to celebrate pathetic unearned rights.
    pathetic, and unearned rights? You are a poser. NOT ONE MARINE I KNOW would EVER show such disdain for the constitution as you do. So you have outed yourself, and just another internet wannabe.

    Of course, my kind will do the dying for such trifle and unnecessary activities so what do the righteous safe at home in front of their religious camp fires care.
    Nonsense, "Your kind" will pop open another bag of popcorn, and flip in a good war movie, and fantasize about being that which you can never be. A Marine.


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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Why don't we have a book burning contest. Koran vs Bible. Winner gets a pizza party. That way if asked, they weren't burning the book out of hate, they just wanted some pizza.

    A great way to relieve some religious frustration.

    A one hour ESPN Special?
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    ESPN Specials have to deal with either The King or Farve. No one else is allowed a special.

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