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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Did anyone else make note of the fact that The Muslim in Chief Obama said the Muslims have the right to Worship and to build their Mosque where ever they want, but over looked the part Where the red neck Pastor has the right to burn anything he wants under the same Constitution?

    The trouble is both sides are wrong for not taking the other side views into account.

    This whole story is out of control and being over blown.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Here's what's being missed in this whole Quran burining discussion: Violence and threats of violence works. The last time this much controversy was created when flags, Christian bibles, etc... were burned? Never. Such a thing is a "who cares" moment. Why? Because Christians don't start bombing other country's who burn bibles or effigies of Jesus. The direct opposite is with Islam. The media and the White House are scared ****less that a whacko Pastor in Florida is going exercise his protected right to burn whatever he wants to burn for whatever reason he wants to burn it, because - they claim, it will endanger our troops. News flash: Our troops are already endangered.
    Well, since they are already in danger why don't we issue out M16s and napalm to the enemy? I mean, **** the troop. Let's make his job as hard as we can since he is in danger anyway.


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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    We burn Korans

    We don't burn Korans

    We burn Korans


    What does that show? That he is nothing but an attention whore.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    We burn Korans
    We don't burn Korans
    We burn Korans
    What does that show? That he is nothing but an attention whore.
    I'm actually curious what kind of event he planned, like how many Korans he was planning to burn and where he was going to get them. I'm sure he small church and his personal check book couldn't cover the cost of buying a few hundred Korans, needed for a good pile/bon-fire, maybe they called it off because they would be too embarrassed to burn only a couple books.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Way to cherry pick your arguments.

    I don't know of many progressives that are calling for this guy to be shut down. In fact, just the opposite. Most progressives I know are saying "Why are we giving this nutjob any airtime....let him burn his Koran...the better approach is to show the world that we don't share the same views as this idiot".

    MSNBC gets the credit for cherry picking...

    Eyeblast.tv

    However, you don't address the hypocrisy part.... Wonder why?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Did anyone else make note of the fact that The Muslim in Chief Obama said the Muslims have the right to Worship and to build their Mosque where ever they want, but over looked the part Where the red neck Pastor has the right to burn anything he wants under the same Constitution?

    The trouble is both sides are wrong for not taking the other side views into account.

    This whole story is out of control and being over blown.
    Exactly. Only use the Constitution when it serves a politicians political purpose.... when it doesn't... don't mention THAT.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Well, since they are already in danger why don't we issue out M16s and napalm to the enemy? I mean, **** the troop. Let's make his job as hard as we can since he is in danger anyway.
    Don't we do that already?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I'm actually curious what kind of event he planned, like how many Korans he was planning to burn and where he was going to get them. I'm sure he small church and his personal check book couldn't cover the cost of buying a few hundred Korans, needed for a good pile/bon-fire, maybe they called it off because they would be too embarrassed to burn only a couple books.
    Doesn't matter. He will get his money back, and then some.

    During the early 90's, I was in a band here in Houston called the Southern Boogie Band. We were a fixture at a club called Spurs. When Saddam invaded Kuwait, we came up with an idea to burn an Iraqi flag at the beginning of the third set, each night we played there. There was a lot of controversy, the club had a couple of bomb threats, there was even a death threat against us, but guess what else? We packed the place, and ended up in the news too. That act was actually one of the reasons I ended up doing studio work for the Houston Rockets. I had a name. LOL.

    Now make no mistake about it - We supported Desert Storm, but don't think for a second that our burning of Iraqi flags at our gigs had anything to do with patriotism. It was all about the money and notoriety we ended up getting for burning them. I am honest enough to admit it. Let's see how honest the pastor is.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans - CNN.com

    I think this guy had every right to do what he was gonna do.

    He didn't have to call it off, and before you start saying well... now the Imam should call off the Islamic Cultural Centre in New York. He shouldn't.

    Both have the choice to say what they will, or will not do.
    This individual has received way too much attention from the media. He is being given political power and sway that he does not deserve, to the point where his actions are affecting high level responses in the White House and from NYC where the community centre is being built.

    The only thing this story has done has made me hate the mainstream media more than I already do. Their obsession with salaciousness has become an infectious disease. People need to stop focusing on whackjobs who are exercising their freedom of speech and they need to get back to real journalism.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Don't we do that already?
    No. None of our enemies have ever fought us with our own weapons. Few have even involved NATO weapons. Soviet Bloc weapons are the weapon of choice in most countries because they are cheap, easily manufactured, and interchangeable. Those allies we do supply weapons to rarely come from our inventory and we have never had to face them.

    During my time in Somalia and after 5 months of captured weapons cahes, we only came across one M16 and it was dated pre 1984 (M16A1).
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