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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    I've just noticed that thread: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ic-center.html

    It's always someone else's fault isn't it. If someone wants to set fire to your trousers it's only right you may complain. People were bound to be provoked by this blatant act of Islamic supremacism.

    Muslims have turned victim-playing into a fine art. Mind, they do have an entire West-ful of liberals to encourage them and the Koran to order them. That's why you could make any kind of case that the pastor gets too much attention for his firelighter threat.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    Indeed no, yours are the ramblings of someone who has no knowledge on how Islam was founded and why, hence no understanding of how every few hundred years there have been such strong jihadist tendencies.
    Jesus, it's like talking to children. It's you, pal, who cherry-picks extremists incidents to re-write the history of a faith.

    Have you even read the Koran? Do you know why it's laid out how it is or what function it's there to serve?
    Have you ever read the bible? Both NT/OT have plenty of justification for extremists acts, holy wars and crusades... if you read them with a hate-filled heart.

    The NT orders followers of Christ to go out and covert people or they'll be damned to hell. And people reading those passages out of context do exactly that with differing degrees of intensity.

    How is that any different that what you're referring to with regard to Islam?

    What's the manifesto of Islam? What are the two main stages of Muhammad's political life regarding his religion? What made Medina and Mecca so important?
    That's how some outside the mainstream read it -- just like that's how some Christians read the NT. And I'd say the number of overzealous Evangelicals in the U.S. far outnumbers that of Muslims with the mindset you describe.

    Again, like all the fear-mongering idiots coming out of the woodwork lately, you are attributing extremists beliefs and practices to an entire religion.

    Even the Catholics had periods where they were going around trying to convert everyone -- those missions in CA?? -- they outgrew it. Mainstream American Muslims have already outgrown the beliefs/practices you describe. So chill out, and stop talking about a faith you don't really understand.

    Come on then, Mr. Answers-with-insults, let's have the education from you. And if you can't answer then be quiet.
    You insult and embarrass yourself with your bigotry and ignorant statements.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Have you ever read the bible? Both NT/OT have plenty of justification for extremists acts, holy wars and crusades... if you read them with a hate-filled heart.
    So you haven't read the Koran then, nor do you have any idea of why it was written and its context. Thanks for confirming that by your evasion.

    As I've said, the Koran was written with murder in mind, the direct, unchangeable words of Allah, whilst the Bible's Old Testament contains re-interpretable accounts written by other people attributed to God's messengers. MASSIVE difference, hence the abuse and eventual New Testament, Reformation and other improvements and reforms.


    Again, like all the fear-mongering idiots coming out of the woodwork lately, you are attributing extremists beliefs and practices to an entire religion.......
    No, I asked a question. A question is not a statement. You refused to answer or were unable to, relying on the usual liberal blend of insults and overblown emotional reaction. That's TWO ignorance points in a row for you there.


    So chill out, and stop talking about a faith you don't really understand.
    OK - tell me something about it and we'll have a debate. Otherwise, as I say, keep quiet if you don't have the knowledge to refute mine and just accuse me of your own ignorance.





    You insult and embarrass yourself with your bigotry and ignorant statements.
    Another blind accusation without proof.


    Jesus, it's like talking to children.
    Quite!
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Then, people shouldn't be offended by the burning of a Koran. I think I'll burn one tomorrow, just for the hell of it.
    Here's what's being missed in this whole Quran burining discussion: Violence and threats of violence works. The last time this much controversy was created when flags, Christian bibles, etc... were burned? Never. Such a thing is a "who cares" moment. Why? Because Christians don't start bombing other country's who burn bibles or effigies of Jesus. The direct opposite is with Islam. The media and the White House are scared ****less that a whacko Pastor in Florida is going exercise his protected right to burn whatever he wants to burn for whatever reason he wants to burn it, because - they claim, it will endanger our troops. News flash: Our troops are already endangered.

    The double standard hypocrisy on this Pastor has highlighted this White House and Progressives: They want the Ground Zero mosque and anyone against it are bigots and hate mongers and it's the Imam's constitutional right to put a mosque there. BUT - when the same constitutional right is exercised they don't like --- such as burning Qurans --- then it must be stopped. Some calling for this pastor to be arrested.

    See how much power Islam and terrorists have over this White House? So much in fact, that the Sec. of State, Sec. of Defense and the POTUS have weighed in. How weak and feeble of a nation we have become.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Here's what's being missed in this whole Quran burining discussion: Violence and threats of violence works. The last time this much controversy was created when flags, Christian bibles, etc... were burned? Never. Such a thing is a "who cares" moment. Why? Because Christians don't start bombing other country's who burn bibles or effigies of Jesus. The direct opposite is with Islam. The media and the White House are scared ****less that a whacko Pastor in Florida is going exercise his protected right to burn whatever he wants to burn for whatever reason he wants to burn it, because - they claim, it will endanger our troops. News flash: Our troops are already endangered.

    The double standard hypocrisy on this Pastor has highlighted this White House and Progressives: They want the Ground Zero mosque and anyone against it are bigots and hate mongers and it's the Imam's constitutional right to put a mosque there. BUT - when the same constitutional right is exercised they don't like --- such as burning Qurans --- then it must be stopped. Some calling for this pastor to be arrested.

    See how much power Islam and terrorists have over this White House? So much in fact, that the Sec. of State, Sec. of Defense and the POTUS have weighed in. How weak and feeble of a nation we have become.
    Way to cherry pick your arguments.

    I don't know of many progressives that are calling for this guy to be shut down. In fact, just the opposite. Most progressives I know are saying "Why are we giving this nutjob any airtime....let him burn his Koran...the better approach is to show the world that we don't share the same views as this idiot".
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Here's what's being missed in this whole Quran burining discussion: Violence and threats of violence works. The last time this much controversy was created when flags, Christian bibles, etc... were burned? Never. Such a thing is a "who cares" moment. Why? Because Christians don't start bombing other country's who burn bibles or effigies of Jesus. The direct opposite is with Islam. The media and the White House are scared ****less that a whacko Pastor in Florida is going exercise his protected right to burn whatever he wants to burn for whatever reason he wants to burn it, because - they claim, it will endanger our troops. News flash: Our troops are already endangered.

    The double standard hypocrisy on this Pastor has highlighted this White House and Progressives: They want the Ground Zero mosque and anyone against it are bigots and hate mongers and it's the Imam's constitutional right to put a mosque there. BUT - when the same constitutional right is exercised they don't like --- such as burning Qurans --- then it must be stopped. Some calling for this pastor to be arrested.

    See how much power Islam and terrorists have over this White House? So much in fact, that the Sec. of State, Sec. of Defense and the POTUS have weighed in. How weak and feeble of a nation we have become.
    Post of the year in my book.....Simply brilliant

    Just to add...that, the Muslim world does not respect weakness. It never has and it never will. They will turn anything we do, good or bad, into a propaganda piece for them. With that in mind, I see no reason to go out of our way to make "nice" with them

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Violence and threats of violence works. The last time this much controversy was created when flags, Christian bibles, etc... were burned? Never.
    Though that han't stopped lefty and liberal wackjobs from hypocritically burning the US flag, claiming that's a legitimate form of protest.

    On this board, out in the world, the attitude is everything goes.... until someone wants to burn a Koran instead. Then the muck flies.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    The only ones claiming that liberals want to shut down this nutjob are the right-wing nut-jobs that are lying to their listeners to convince them that this is the case.
    THAT's the problem with right-wing radio and FauxNews.....they say something and their followers automatically believe what they said is true....when it is completely false.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans - CNN.com

    I think this guy had every right to do what he was gonna do.

    He didn't have to call it off, and before you start saying well... now the Imam should call off the Islamic Cultural Centre in New York. He shouldn't.

    Both have the choice to say what they will, or will not do.
    BOOOO!!!! What a ****ing pussy! Backing down like that. Sure it was a stupid plan, but he was more than free to do it. I hope this wasn't some PC **** pressure that got him to back down. It's fine if he rethought the position and came to the conclusion by himself; but if it was forced by others I say boooo on them!
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