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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    In a climate where all concerns are ignored over a mosque built on a warzone,
    The Burlington Coat Factory was indeed a 'war zone' during their going out of business sale.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post

    Just when you thought our country had moved beyond the fear and ignorance of the 1950's-1960's... Sir, yours are the paranoid ramblings dragging this country backwards and into the gutter of bigotry.
    Indeed no, yours are the ramblings of someone who has no knowledge on how Islam was founded and why, hence no understanding of how every few hundred years there have been such strong jihadist tendencies.

    Have you even read the Koran? Do you know why it's laid out how it is or what function it's there to serve?

    What's the manifesto of Islam? What are the two main stages of Muhammad's political life regarding his religion? What made Medina and Mecca so important?


    Come on then, Mr. Answers-with-insults, let's have the education from you. And if you can't answer then be quiet.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

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    Indeed no, yours are the ramblings of someone who has no knowledge on how Islam was founded and why, hence no understanding of how every few hundred years there have been such strong jihadist tendencies.

    Have you even read the Koran? Do you know why it's laid out how it is or what function it's there to serve?
    The ability to Google 'online Qur'an' and pull off a few out-of-context passages does not make you a Koranic scholar, as your constant inflammatory posts attest. I could pull out wild and violent passages from almost every religious text available, but I won't do that because I understand that words without context, analysis and debate are just that, words.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    I'll not waste words to say again in depth that Islam was made for war whilst Christianity was made for peace. You didn't get Christ saying "I was made victorious through terror" as Muhammad did.


    And don't just moan about my being able to use a search engine. If I'm so in the wrong, I dare you to deconstruct my bits with your own. That is, if you know what you're talking about beyond your pocket cliches.

    And being able to answer the questions I set would show an understanding of the mechanics of Islam, which probaly explains why my opponents can't answer them. They come out with the readymade 'religion of peace' statements without actually knowing much about the creed they defend.


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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    I'll not waste words to say again in depth that Islam was made for war whilst Christianity was made for peace. You didn't get Christ saying "I was made victorious through terror" as Muhammad did.


    And don't just moan about my being able to use a search engine. If I'm so in the wrong, I dare you to deconstruct my bits with your own. That is, if you know what you're talking about beyond your pocket cliches.

    And being able to answer the questions I set would show an understanding of the mechanics of Islam, which probaly explains why my opponents can't answer them. They come out with the readymade 'religion of peace' statements without actually knowing much about the creed they defend.
    No, I'm neither an academic theologian, nor a Koranic scholar. And, just a guess, neither are you. So why should we exchange ill-informed cod interpretations of a work neither of us has studied properly? Always happy to debate subjects I have studied, like international politics, economics, medieval history and the great achievements of Manchester City Football Club. That last course didn't take me too long.

    I've never called Islam 'Religion of Peace', that seems like an oxymoron to me.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Well, there's a point of contact. Although I've tried to learn what I can about Islam and Muhammad's life and explained many questions because of it, I can't say I'm a learned scholar. Mind, I never claimed I was and was just making the point that where possible I try to know my onions. I can't find it on here, it must have been moved, but I do remember debating the finer points of the Koran and Sunnah with a Muslim lady who once came here. I said a lot and I learned a lot.

    I do recall that the 'Religion of Peace' statement wasn't brought into popular consciousness by Muslims at all, rather a bunch of liberals claiming to diffuse tensions. But to do that you have to tackle the arguments and questions I've often posed and get to the truth, whoever that suits. Slogans and insults aren't the way.


    Religions, as with extremist political ideologies like Nazism or Communism, often have violence perpetuated to further them. I tried to find out which ones started with violence and which had violence adopted on their behalf.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    I just want to see the Pastor on Dancing With The Stars and become the partner for Bristol Palin.

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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic_Of_Public View Post
    Slogans and insults aren't the way.
    You're not serious? You are serious...
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...weinhunds.html
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...iminatory.html
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...tegration.html
    Insults and slogans are BAD. RoP says so.

    I tried to find out which ones started with violence and which had violence adopted on their behalf.
    Your semantic exercises will come as a great comfort to all the victims of religious persecution carried out by faiths that started out with messages of peace and love.
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    I'm called all sorts of names of these boards, as well as everyone else who dares deviate from the PC mantras across the West. So all there is to do is tell it like it is regarding people who don't give two hoots for certain opposing views anyway, especially in the case of the EU.


    Your semantic exercises will come as a great comfort to all the victims of religious persecution carried out by faiths that started out with messages of peace and love.
    If they weren't violent to start with then you can restore to that default. And it's funny how valid explanations of suppositions turn into 'semantic exercises' in the invalidation process.

    A bit like here when the point was proved in the message above: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...post1058867527
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    Re: Florida pastor calls off burning of Qurans

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    What kind of compromise is that? It isn't a fair compromise for the the mosque to be moved simply because some guy isn't going to burn a book.
    Then, people shouldn't be offended by the burning of a Koran. I think I'll burn one tomorrow, just for the hell of it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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