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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    I doubt that it's true.

    Sounds and awful lot like the Inglorious Bastards . . . is there a Stieglitz on the team perchance?
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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That soldier ****ed up, by not properly using his chain of command.
    I'd like to see the evidence where this kid or his parents tried to notify the army. sounds to me a lot like the kid got caught and now daddy is trying to cover his ass by claiming "we tried to tell them"

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    These men should be considered innocent until proven guilty. But IF proven guilty...should be hammered to the fullest extent of the law. The description of their behaviors is not something I cannot fathom because I have seen this type of behavior with civilian prisoners...but it is nonetheless unexcusable.
    Agreed. Now if proven inocent, should not the papers/news be held accountable for publishing/reporting false information? Interesting that no one wants to hold reporters accountable.
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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That soldier ****ed up, by not properly using his chain of command.
    Read on down:
    Soldiers serving in a combat theater typically would report crimes up the chain of command, to military investigators or chaplains, to members of the Defense Department inspector general's office, or even to another unit if their own commanders are involved.

    One soldier, Pfc. Justin A. Stoner, who reported hashish smoking in the unit, said he was beaten by several platoon members. Gibbs and Morlock then paid him a visit, with Gibbs rolling out on the floor a set of severed fingers, he told investigators.

    Morlock told him that "if I don't want to end up like that guy ... shut the hell up."
    If true, that is a major problem.

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I'd like to see the evidence where this kid or his parents tried to notify the army. sounds to me a lot like the kid got caught and now daddy is trying to cover his ass by claiming "we tried to tell them"
    Reading the article might help:
    "I'm not sure what to do about something that happened out here but I need to be secretive about this," their son wrote them in a Facebook message. The couple gave the AP copies of the Facebook messages, Internet chats and their phone records.

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Reading the article might help:
    still doesn't show where anyone gave anything to the army. and when did the couple give the stuff to the AP?

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies' | World news | The Guardian



    If true, I hope they fry... the are a disgrace to the US military and the US as a whole.

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I'd like to see the evidence where this kid or his parents tried to notify the army. sounds to me a lot like the kid got caught and now daddy is trying to cover his ass by claiming "we tried to tell them"
    That could very well be the case. Or, the daddy is a anti-war kook, who is only trying to throw gas on the fire.

    There's a reporter at every turn in Afghanistan, mostly Libbos acting as watchdogs, in case some one the army gives a captured Islamofacist a dirty look or something. That kid couldn't find one to tell his story to? I'm having a tough time buying into that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I don't get it. Why morons like this, if the allegations are true, want to kill civilians.

    Because they're pussies.

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by oscarb63 View Post
    still doesn't show where anyone gave anything to the army. And when did the couple give the stuff to the ap?
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    winfield asked his parents to call an army hotline because he didn't want anyone to overhear him using the phone.

    His father, a marine veteran, was shocked, and made five calls to military officials that day, his phone records show.

    He said he left a message on a defense department hotline and called four numbers at fort lewis. He said he spoke with an on-duty sergeant and left a message at an army criminal investigations division office before reaching the base's command center.

    In that call, an official told him that if his son wasn't willing to come forward while deployed, there was nothing the base could do, winfield recalled in interviews with the ap and in a sworn statement to army investigators.

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