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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    But I thought we went to those countries to do good
    Now, see, that's the problem. Those who judge a whole mission, a whole armed services on the actions of a few bad apples, make the rest of us nutz.
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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    That's just sick, but those are still merely accusations and they should be regarded to as such.
    Is there any other source for this except of the Guardian?
    I agree it should be verified, and then if accurte, the accused tried. But one of the problems with war is that it creates the opportunity for those who have such sick intent to act on those intentions. Not saing this specific accusation is true, but noting the nature of war.

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Now, see, that's the problem. Those who judge a whole mission, a whole armed services on the actions of a few bad apples, make the rest of us nutz.
    I was never "for" the mission to begin with, I never thought we did any good in Iraq and Afghanistan and I held that view before I read about this and I will continue to hold long after this case if true.
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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Now, see, that's the problem. Those who judge a whole mission, a whole armed services on the actions of a few bad apples, make the rest of us nutz.
    you know how when a few fanatical muslims do something bad, we immediately get lectured for lumping all muslims together? isn't it funny then, that when a few americans do something bad, "their" first reaction is to lump us all together?

    "hypocrisy...what a concept"

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    But I thought we went to those countries to do good
    Ya'll don't, We do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I was never "for" the mission to begin with, I never thought we did any good in Iraq and Afghanistan and I held that view before I read about this and I will continue to hold long after this case if true.
    Well, if Muslims, from Afghanistan, hadn't attacked us, we wouldn't have went.

    To address the article, it's probably bull****. 99% of these cockamamy accusations against American troops have turned out to be just that, since we first went to war against the Muslim terrorists.

    It's like the story that came out several years ago--2006-07?--where American troops burned the bodies of Taliban fighters. It was billed as some kind of insult to Islam and an atrocity and blah, blah, blah. When the real story came out, the bodies were burned for hygene reasons, plus they were stinking up the whole outpost and the soldiers weren't able to bury the bodies, nor evacuate them; so there was only one thing to do.

    I'm sure the real story is somewhere out there about this incident, I just hope we get to hear it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    One of the soldiers' parents are claiming they knew this was going on and tried several times to get the Army to do something about it:
    The father of a U.S. soldier serving in Afghanistan says he tried nearly a half dozen times to pass an urgent message from his son to the Army: Troops in his unit had murdered an Afghan civilian, planned more killings and threatened him to keep quiet about it.

    By the time officials arrested suspects months later, two more Afghans were dead.

    And much to Christopher Winfield's horror, his son Adam was among the five Fort Lewis-based soldiers charged in the killings.

    The elder Winfield told The Associated Press in an exclusive interview that his son did not kill the unarmed man and would never have been in the situation if the Army had investigated the warnings he says he passed along to Fort Lewis.
    The Associated Press: Soldier's father: Army was warned of murder plot

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    One of the soldiers was apparently from Wasilla. What are the odds that the media will avoid making some sort of connection with Sarah Palin?

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I was never "for" the mission to begin with, I never thought we did any good in Iraq and Afghanistan and I held that view before I read about this and I will continue to hold long after this case if true.
    You don't have to be "for or against" the mission to be wrong in making blanket judgements on the actions of a few.
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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies' | World news | The Guardian
    If true, I hope they fry... the are a disgrace to the US military and the US as a whole.
    These men should be considered innocent until proven guilty. But IF proven guilty...should be hammered to the fullest extent of the law. The description of their behaviors is not something I cannot fathom because I have seen this type of behavior with civilian prisoners...but it is nonetheless unexcusable.

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    Re: US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as trophies

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    One of the soldiers' parents are claiming they knew this was going on and tried several times to get the Army to do something about it:

    The Associated Press: Soldier's father: Army was warned of murder plot
    That soldier ****ed up, by not properly using his chain of command.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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