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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    He said it's in need of change, not that it didnt work.
    A leopard never changes his spots.


    My point is simply that making systemic changes does not indicate that the entire idea is now broken.
    If mass murder, oppression, poverty and curtailment of civil rights in a brutal brainwashing dictatorship doesn't indicate the system is 'broken', then there's no hope for the man. Nor, for that matter, anybody trying to rehabilitate, re-interpret or defend it.

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    The Left won't listen to anyone who experienced Communism first hand, Republic_Of_Public, because they claim they are "prejudiced".
    Well, there was one of the politically-correct Polish 'intellectuals' on this board who also allegedly saw communism first hand saying it wasn't 'proper' communism. He was thrust in my face a couple of times, but only because he fitted the revisionist agenda.

    Had he been trying to do the same with Nazism, the hypocritical Leftards would have torn him limb-from-limb. Shows how consistent these Red berks are.


    'Communism was alright', say the Polish avant-garde, contrary to what the normal people say:
    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4932322,00.html



    Still, the general attitude is consistent right across the social spectrum. When the deputy leader of the then-ruling Labour Party here, Harriet Harman, suggested the 'court of public opinion' affect lawmaking, she was torn apart by her fellow Left wing shysters.



    "Crime victims and those scared of crime have had their perceptions coloured", they merely say. No wonder crime is up and people detest the politicians just as much as they fear the real crime threat, which hangs over us like a pall because our masters want criminals to have too many benefits of the doubt. (No doubt is actually there, so it was created.)


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    Murderous Communist turds and their apologists and blindsiders:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...-oxymoron.html


    Killing and tyranny your bag? Then Cuba's the new Socialist Paradise! Get your Che t-shirts on and boogie on down to escape the chains of capitalism:
    Thompson Says: Forget About Murder And Oppression, Castro Is A Great Guy! « Barbados Free Press

    Don't worry, the glory continues relentlessly:
    Cuban repression has continued under Raúl Castro, says watchdog | World news | The Guardian





    Only because the liberal swine watered-down the system to near-unworkable jelly:
    Tough on crime? Jail's not the answer | Chris Huhne | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

    (The Guardian is the British liberal Establishment's number one propaganda-newspaper.)


    Canal trips and the like are the answer! Much nicer for the poor criminal:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...urglaries.html


    Mind, the Left crack down when they want to, on ordinary decent normal people:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ifth-year.html



    They don't learn when even the Minister responsible is too frightened of the consequences which she herself helped unleash:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...red-night.html
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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Changing a system does not mean that system doesn't work. Changing it usually means you're trying to make it work better and adapt it to a more modern setting.

    Stop trying to draw out something that isnt there.
    How could you possibly tweak communism to make it work?

    Allow people to leave and have it on a voluntary basis?

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez
    His proposed change apparently is liberalization to an extent. Seems to me that it's basically a claim that communism doesn't work.
    "However, at the same time the government has announced that workers will be encouraged to take over the ownership of the companies in which they work. In a move that the government has actually called a deepening of socialism, the Cubans are about to launch what could potentially become the biggest co-operative project the world has ever seen.

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    The government is saying that the old centrally planned Soviet-style of socialism has finally hit the buffers – a new form of socialism is required, in which the state ceases to be the administrator of economic activity but the regulator. That's a different model of socialism – it may not work either – but it is not capitalism."
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    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    However, at the same time the government has announced that workers will be encouraged to take over the ownership of the companies in which they work. In a move that the government has actually called a deepening of socialism, the Cubans are about to launch what could potentially become the biggest co-operative project the world has ever seen.
    But wait a minute, I'm confuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuused!

    Isn't that what every Communist regime ever promised yet not delivered? Castro and his killer crew lose more credibility the more you think about it!

    No wonder they tend to prefer revolution over election! The Marxist conmen are just so untrustworthy!

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    a new form of socialism (LOL!) is like a new form of fascism

    all fail

    the candor above, however, is refreshing

    party on, progressives!

    we're all watching

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    "However, at the same time the government has announced that workers will be encouraged to take over the ownership of the companies in which they work. In a move that the government has actually called a deepening of socialism, the Cubans are about to launch what could potentially become the biggest co-operative project the world has ever seen.

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    The government is saying that the old centrally planned Soviet-style of socialism has finally hit the buffers – a new form of socialism is required, in which the state ceases to be the administrator of economic activity but the regulator. That's a different model of socialism – it may not work either – but it is not capitalism."
    Guardian Source
    Any reasonably well read person knew it wasn't working a couple of generations ago but Castro figured it still had a chance? It was, as always, all about personal power.

    I doubt that Castro is as stupid as those who believe in him. This is probably one of those near deathbed confessions where he's asking forgiveness for the horrors he inflicted on the Cuban people.

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    "However, at the same time the government has announced that workers will be encouraged to take over the ownership of the companies in which they work. In a move that the government has actually called a deepening of socialism, the Cubans are about to launch what could potentially become the biggest co-operative project the world has ever seen.

    ...

    The government is saying that the old centrally planned Soviet-style of socialism has finally hit the buffers – a new form of socialism is required, in which the state ceases to be the administrator of economic activity but the regulator. That's a different model of socialism – it may not work either – but it is not capitalism."
    Guardian Source
    I would have to question whether Communist nations such as China or Cuba are really "communist". They are socialist dictatorships rather than true communism. I also believe most Latin American communists are modified communists, not true Lenin-types. Exceptions noted of course.

    btw - We defeated Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy, but in no way did we defeat fascism. In essence, it is militant socialism. Socialism is alive, well, and growing/expanding. All it requires is opportunity to spring into full blown fascism.

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    I would have to question whether Communist nations such as China or Cuba are really "communist".
    We've had this before. You can't have leaderless states, so unscrupulous men fill the gap. That's not to say communism's without guilt in itself though, as it sets the perfect condition with its 'dictatorship of the proleteriat' instability cobblers.

    The ideology of total equality, if necessary (as it is) by crushing the independence of free people, leads to fascism as you need bastards to do the job. Lowest common denominator politics is necessarily fascist.
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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    How is possible that still are some who are sympathetic to the Tyrannosaurus Rex? Don’t let this psychopath liar fool you, he has no conscience.

    Castro during the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 12, 1962, the closest the world had ever come to nuclear war, wrote in his cable to Khrushchev in October 26, 1962, “that would be the moment to eliminate such danger forever through tan act of clear legitimate defense, however harsh and terrible the solution would be, for there is no other… the Soviet Union must never allow the circumstances in which the imperialists could launch the first nuclear strike against it.”

    Khrushchev response in October 30, 1962, “In your cable of October 27 you proposed that we be the first to launch a nuclear strike against the territory of the enemy. You, of course, realize where that would have led. Rather than a simple strike, it would have been the start of a thermonuclear world war.”

    Castro, in his deep hatred against the United States, did not hesitate in asking for the launch of a nuclear strike without given a damn that such action sealed the annihilation of the Cuban people and a large part of humanity. Castro deserves everything that's coming to him.

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