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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Come on guys. Respond to the topic, which is about Castro saying that Communism doesn't work. No need to call people names here.
    He said it's in need of change, not that it didnt work.
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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you could not meet the challenge
    nowhere in your cites do we find that michel morre has advocated communist government as the one most appropriate for cuba

    but keep trying
    don't want those on the far right to insist that they were not given an opportunity to document their spurious claims
    If opposing Communism, a system that cost the lives of over 100 million people, means "far right", I'd gladly wear that label.

    It was the most evil movement in the history of mankind, and those who supported it, in any form, are as ignorant as dirt.

    They have no excuse whatsoever.

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    "As mentioned in my Communists thread, half my family are Polish, with my grandmother and her friends refugees from both Nazi and Communist occupation. So we know a thing or two in our house".

    The Left won't listen to anyone who experienced Communism first hand, Republic_Of_Public, because they claim they are "prejudiced".

    So if you managed to escape from Hungary, Cuba, East Germany, etc. they just wouldn't believe you. This despite, in every other facet of life, experience counts. Communism was the lone exception.
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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio

    I heard about this on NPR and I think it's fantastic. It was interesting because they interviewed a Cuban who now lives in London. He agreed that the communist model had failed and the Cuban people were victims of Castro's system. But they asked him if it was worth trying and he said "absolutely." I think that's very, very interesting. I have to agree with him. It's not like Hitler, where his brand of socialism didn't resemble socialist principles one bit. What Castro did in Cuba is execute a pure brand of communism, let it play out, and it failed. It's a wonderful lesson for the world and political thinkers everywhere. It's just very sad that the Cuban people were the victims of this experiment.
    WTF is a "pure brand of communism" and how does one "execute" it?
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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    He said it's in need of change, not that it didnt work.
    His proposed change apparently is liberalization to an extent. Seems to me that it's basically a claim that communism doesn't work.

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    His proposed change apparently is liberalization to an extent. Seems to me that it's basically a claim that communism doesn't work.
    Changing a system does not mean that system doesn't work. Changing it usually means you're trying to make it work better and adapt it to a more modern setting.

    Stop trying to draw out something that isnt there.
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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Changing a system does not mean that system doesn't work. Changing it usually means you're trying to make it work better and adapt it to a more modern setting.

    Stop trying to draw out something that isnt there.
    Liberalization, the complete opposite of a control economy, seems like the course of action that someone would take if they don't believe that the system can work.

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Liberalization, the complete opposite of a control economy, seems like the course of action that someone would take if they don't believe that the system can work.
    It means one aspect of the system is changing. Communism is more than a control economy.
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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    It means one aspect of the system is changing. Communism is more than a control economy.
    If Communism works then why is it necessary to liberalize this industry?

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    Re: Fidel latest to say Cuba's communism doesn't work

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    If Communism works then why is it necessary to liberalize this industry?
    I dont know. I'm not familiar with the specifics of the situation. My point is simply that making systemic changes does not indicate that the entire idea is now broken.

    You are assuming that the entire ideology hinges on this one point
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