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    Re: Health Plan Won’t Fuel Big Spending, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    If we just got rid of hospitals in this country, or forced them to provide their services at much less than their costs, the average heart transplant would only be about $200k.

    Here's a nice breakdown of what is associated with that cost:

    Transplant Living: Organ Donation and Transplantation Information for Patients

    And before you say it, hospitals have, on average, very low profit margins with many not making any profit at all.
    Hhmm…visions of a heart transplant on a kitchen table, with patent biting on a bullet after chugalugging a quart of vodka. Yep, that would cut cost.
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    Re: Health Plan Won’t Fuel Big Spending, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Well what do you expect when this policy is basically forcing people to go to the very insurance companies that have been gouging them for years?
    Average profit margins are around 6%, minimum acceptable standard is usually at 8% for businesses as a rule. For insurance companies to be "gouging" they would have to have profit margins larger than they are currently that did not line up with the value of the service provided, if anything insurance is "cheap" compared to the payouts for services artificially regulated to inflated values.
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    Re: Health Plan Won’t Fuel Big Spending, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm just wondering why a heart transplant costs almost a million dollars in this country.
    As mentioned above, here's the breakdown:

    According to Transplant Living, the average total cost of a single heart transplant in 2007 was $658,800. This figure includes the cost of obtaining a donor heart, at an average of nearly $90,000, about $23,000 in evaluation fees, $40,000 for doctor's fees, $383,000 in hospital costs, $93,000 in post-operative care, and over $29,000 for immunosuppressive prescription medications.
    None of that seems remotely out-of-line to me.

    A heart transplant involves extensive pre-operative screening, transport of a surgeon to remove and preserve the heart, 8+ hours of surgery from a team of highly trained surgeons in order to install the heart, weeks of post-operative hospital rest, and a lifetime course of immunosuppressants.
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