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DOJ investigating at least 5 anti-Muslim acts

Laila said:
There is no smoke without fire. They are the ones who are killing innocent Muslim children and Mothers in the streets of Iraq and Palestine, Afghanistan, they invade Muslim territory and kill us with abandon. For decades Muslims have fought back against said oppression and invasion of our lands, watching helpless whilst our people suffer observing puppet Governments and royals being forced to over rule us with the help of the West. Being given weapons to suppress us which include gas which has killed tens of thousands, set up torture camps to humiliate our brothers and sisters. Hearing about their soldiers raping and killing our women. They have created this image for themselves and have elected those who have enabled it to continue. I and many others have no trouble with them now dealing with the backlash.

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I will throw PC out the window here and say it: Islam is a warrior religion. Islam is not a peaceful religion. Mohammed was not a peacemaker, he was a warrior who conquered most of the Arabian peninsula and modern day Israel/Palestine. The Koran does not tell you to love thine enemy, it tells you to love your fellow muslim. With respect to infidels, it tells you to either convert them, subjugate them, or kill them.

Combine this philosoophy with ancient tribalist structures from across Arabia, Africa, and Asia, and you have a megasociety that advocates peace with your brother as long as he really is your brother, but wiping out any neighbor who isn't your brother.
 
ric27 said:
I will throw PC out the window here and say it: Islam is a warrior religion. Islam is not a peaceful religion. Mohammed was not a peacemaker, he was a warrior who conquered most of the Arabian peninsula and modern day Israel/Palestine. The Koran does not tell you to love thine enemy, it tells you to love your fellow muslim. With respect to infidels, it tells you to either convert them, subjugate them, or kill them.

Combine this philosoophy with ancient tribalist structures from across Arabia, Africa, and Asia, and you have a megasociety that advocates peace with your brother as long as he really is your brother, but wiping out any neighbor who isn't your brother.
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:lamo

No comments on my post ... Interesting ....

I'll throw PC out of the window and just say what we are all thinking, US has a history of death and invading, oppressing Muslims and installing puppet Governments and Royals who then go on and oppress their people with the help of funding, weapons and international support by countries like UK and US
Combine this with its arrogant attitude of 'we do no wrong' and American's habit of electing stupid Presidents ... not naming any names *cough* Bush

US claims democracy. Yet supports dictatorships.
It claims human rights. Yet has torture camps.
US attempts to claim it stands for freedom and fairness when it exports nothing of the kind ... unless weapons count at it.
 
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ric27 said:
I will throw PC out the window here and say it: Islam is a warrior religion. Islam is not a peaceful religion. Mohammed was not a peacemaker, he was a warrior who conquered most of the Arabian peninsula and modern day Israel/Palestine. The Koran does not tell you to love thine enemy, it tells you to love your fellow muslim. With respect to infidels, it tells you to either convert them, subjugate them, or kill them.

Combine this philosoophy with ancient tribalist structures from across Arabia, Africa, and Asia, and you have a megasociety that advocates peace with your brother as long as he really is your brother, but wiping out any neighbor who isn't your brother.
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I will throw PC out the window here and say it: Negroes are a warrior people. Negroes are not a peaceful people. Malcom X was not a peacemaker, he was a warrior who preached violence. Louis Farrakhan does not tell you to love thine enemy, he tells you to love your fellow black Muslim. With respect to infidels, he tells you to either convert them, subjugate them, or kill them.

Combine this philosoophy with ancient tribalist structures from across Africa, and you have a megasociety that advocates peace with your brother as long as he really is your brother, but wiping out any neighbor who isn't your brother.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
I will throw PC out the window here and say it: Negroes are a warrior people. Negroes are not a peaceful people. Malcom X was not a peacemaker, he was a warrior who preached violence. Louis Farrakhan does not tell you to love thine enemy, he tells you to love your fellow black Muslim. With respect to infidels, he tells you to either convert them, subjugate them, or kill them.

Combine this philosoophy with ancient tribalist structures from across Africa, and you have a megasociety that advocates peace with your brother as long as he really is your brother, but wiping out any neighbor who isn't your brother.
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Good one.
I should have used race instead. Much better.
 
ric27 said:
I will throw PC out the window here and say it: Islam is a warrior religion. Islam is not a peaceful religion. Mohammed was not a peacemaker, he was a warrior who conquered most of the Arabian peninsula and modern day Israel/Palestine. The Koran does not tell you to love thine enemy, it tells you to love your fellow muslim. With respect to infidels, it tells you to either convert them, subjugate them, or kill them.

Combine this philosoophy with ancient tribalist structures from across Arabia, Africa, and Asia, and you have a megasociety that advocates peace with your brother as long as he really is your brother, but wiping out any neighbor who isn't your brother.
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Well, that certainly explains why 95% of victims of Islamic terrorism are fellow Muslims.

You're so smart. :D
 
Harshaw said:
Is that actually true?
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The absolute majority of victims of terrorism (90+%) is Muslims themselves.

The West get next to nothing of the blowback from extremists.
 
Where does this 95% happen, and who does it to whom?

Mind you, I'm not disputing that it does happen.
 
Harshaw said:
Where does this 95% happen, and who does it to whom?

Mind you, I'm not disputing that it does happen.
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In Iran, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Pakistan, Lebanon, Nigeria, Ethiopia (disputed land), Kenya and so on ...

Basically any and all Muslim country with a current or on going political/foreign/religious issue. You will find terrorists, extremists and/or Islamists and always the first victims of extremists are Muslims themselves.
 
Laila said:
The absolute majority of victims of terrorism (90+%) is Muslims themselves.

The West get next to nothing of the blowback from extremists.
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Don't fabricate numbers. Either back up your claims of 95% or drop them.
 
Laila said:
:lamo

No comments on my post ... Interesting ....

I'll throw PC out of the window and just say what we are all thinking, US has a history of death and invading, oppressing Muslims and installing puppet Governments and Royals who then go on and oppress their people with the help of funding, weapons and international support by countries like UK and US
Combine this with its arrogant attitude of 'we do no wrong' and American's habit of electing stupid Presidents ... not naming any names *cough* Bush

US claims democracy. Yet supports dictatorships.
It claims human rights. Yet has torture camps.
US attempts to claim it stands for freedom and fairness when it exports nothing of the kind ... unless weapons count at it.
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As for the evil policies of the US, again, the US is not and has never been bent on worldwide conquest. Our policies have centered around the protection of the US and its people. At times some of those policies were indeed off the mark, but the goal, unlike the goal of Islam, was never bet on ruling the world.


And of course, there is the big difference - the US pursues the recognition of inalienable rights for all people, under the belief that those rights to liberty, freedom, life and the pursuit of happiness are natural rights each man is born with, rights granted by the Creator. In Islam, there is only the right to bend to the will of Allah, and the right to serve Allah. To be a slave to a deified master.

The fact is, Islam is a grave threat to world peace. Islam is not compatible with our own Constitution. Islam is the antithesis of Christianity and Judiasm and most certainly, Islam is the evil of the wolf dressed in the clothing of a sheep.

And if these few Muslims are giving the others a bad name, where is the "good" Muslim public condemnation? Why do we never, ever, see a genuine outcry? Perhaps it is because there is no disagreement with those few misguided Muslims like yourself and others as to the goals, but merely the methods.
 
Arcana XV said:
Well, that certainly explains why 95% of victims of Islamic terrorism are fellow Muslims.

You're so smart. :D
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Islam while certainly killing off a certain number of their own, have spent over 1200 years killing primarily those of other religions.

95%????
 
ric27 said:
Islam while certainly killing off a certain number of their own, have spent over 1200 years killing primarily those of other religions.

95%????
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I'm pretty sure that's more of a recent-history number.

Seeing as how every time I bring up Christianity's brutal history I'm told that's old news, bringing up Islam's violent past is irrelevant by that very standard.
 
Harshaw said:
Is that actually true? 95%?
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Actually it's a guesstimate of mine. It's a big number in any case. AL-Qaeda's victims alone are 85% Muslim according to a recent US study. Add to that the countless attacks perpetrated on a quasi monthly basis by other groups in Muslim countries and you probably come close to my guess. All you have to do is compare how many successful terrorist attacks you read about happening in the West, what is it like 3 in the last 10 years, with the steady stream of violence going on in the Muslim world.

Here's a link to the Al-Qaeda numbers:

Al Qaeda hurts Muslims most - Washington Times

Actually the WTimes claims it's as high as 98%. Weird, most sources I remember reading claimed 85%. Well, either way...
 
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texmaster said:
I see the apologist tour is still in full swing.
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What an unbelievably ****ing stupid thing to say!!

There's a time to run your mouth, and there's a time to tone it down...

Even caribou Barbie seems to know what time it is right now. If there is any violence towards American Muslims this Saturday, the morons that spewed the hate, and those that didn't tell them to shut their pie-holes because of partisan loyalty, need to take a long look in the mirror: you're making us all look like the hateful extremists we condemned 10 years ago.
 
hazlnut said:
What an unbelievably ****ing stupid thing to say!!

There's a time to run your mouth, and there's a time to tone it down...

Even caribou Barbie seems to know what time it is right now. If there is any violence towards American Muslims this Saturday, the morons that spewed the hate, and those that didn't tell them to shut their pie-holes because of partisan loyalty, need to take a long look in the mirror: you're making us all look like the hateful extremists we condemned 10 years ago.
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There is indeed someone making you look like a hateful extremist. Someone very close to you.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Seeing as how every time I bring up Christianity's brutal history I'm told that's old news, bringing up Islam's violent past is irrelevant by that very standard.
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Bull****. Christianity ended its crusades half a millenia ago, Islam is still stuck in the 12th century. Christianity went through a bloody Reformation that led to a more tolerant, enlightened civilization. Islam is still stuck in the 12th century. Christian clerics stopped calling for blood en mass centuries ago. Islamic clerics are still stuck in the 12th century.

If you think the two religions are morally equivalent and equally mature, then you are in serious need of a head examination.
 
Harshaw said:
There is indeed someone making you look like a hateful extremist. Someone very close to you.
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Yeah, cause I'm the one burning **** up.:roll:

Un****ingbelievable, the stupidity of some people.

How anyone can make excuses for this type of behavior is beyond me. The first thing out of any NORMAL person's mouth should be, we need to tone it down, slow it down, get this under control. Not this retard crap, may be they set the fires themselves.

Do they even listen to themselves when they make those idiotic statements? Is goddamned partisanship really that important to them that they can't, for one moment in their lives step outside party and see how wrong this all is?
 
hazlnut said:
Yeah, cause I'm the one burning **** up.:roll:

Un****ingbelievable, the stupidity of some people.

How anyone can make excuses for this type of behavior is beyond me. The first thing out of any NORMAL person's mouth should be, we need to tone it down, slow it down, get this under control. Not this retard crap, may be they set the fires themselves.

Do they even listen to themselves when they make those idiotic statements? Is goddamned partisanship really that important to them that they can't, for one moment in their lives step outside party and see how wrong this all is?
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You, complaining about partisanship? You're the one that's making grand accusations as to the motives of the fire setter with nothing more then assumption. All were asking is "wait till they catch the perp". Why is that so hard for you to do?
 
ric27 said:
Bull****. Christianity ended its crusades half a millenia ago, Islam is still stuck in the 12th century. Christianity went through a bloody Reformation that led to a more tolerant, enlightened civilization. Islam is still stuck in the 12th century. Christian clerics stopped calling for blood en mass centuries ago. Islamic clerics are still stuck in the 12th century.
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Like I said, what's good for the goose is never good for the gander! :lol:

ric27 said:
If you think the two religions are morally equivalent and equally mature, then you are in serious need of a head examination.
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I think religions are morally equivalent, not just those two in particular.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
I'm pretty sure that's more of a recent-history number.

Seeing as how every time I bring up Christianity's brutal history I'm told that's old news, bringing up Islam's violent past is irrelevant by that very standard.
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I don't see anyone trying to make excuses for Christian brutality of the past.
 
I've seen a variety of Islam's detractors on this forum push aside Christianity's brutal past on the basis of it being "ancient history," then turn around and bring up Islam's "ancient history."
 
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