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    Re: US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Then why are you defending it? This Pastor is going out of his way to offend some people and display his intolerance. Some of us pointed at his idiocy.

    It's barely a mosque in my honest opinion. I've seen at least a few hundred different mosques in my life, and the debate over this is just laughable. It's mainly an Islamic center that will also happen to have a mosque inside. It'll be similar to this center that Hakeem Olajuwon made from an old bank:

    The *Islamic center* is the problem. . . I think everyone's clear that this isn't *just* a mosque.
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    Re: US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Quote Originally Posted by hafez View Post
    How ironic that all this talk of the religion of "peace" is coming from someone named godswrath..... keep spreading your intolerance, as a former dhimmi I see right through your facade.
    Way to ignore my whole post and instead judge my username...

    whats the problem with it? listen to Jedi Mind Tricks...(good rap group). i got the name from them..

    and remeber, as much as God has love, God also has Wrath.. there is no denying that...

    but again, once u comment on my post we can talk.

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    Re: US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Then why are you defending it? This Pastor is going out of his way to offend some people and display his intolerance. Some of us pointed at his idiocy.
    I'm not defending anything. Except, this preacher's right to burn the Koran, as a means of expression, which is his right under the Constituion.

    It's barely a mosque in my honest opinion. I've seen at least a few hundred different mosques in my life, and the debate over this is just laughable. It's mainly an Islamic center that will also happen to have a mosque inside. It'll be similar to this center that Hakeem Olajuwon made from an old bank:

    I don't care if it's a FEMA trailer, people find the Ground Zero mosque offensive.

    If the Lefties want to scream, "tolerance, tolerance, tolerance", they should start by recognizing this preacher's right of free expression and supporting that right, no matter how assinine his actions are.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If the Lefties want to scream, "tolerance, tolerance, tolerance", they should start by recognizing this preacher's right of free expression and supporting that right, no matter how assinine his actions are.
    Who here has stated that they believe the preacher's First Amendment right to free speech should not be recognized? Please link to it.

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    Re: US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Quote Originally Posted by GodsWrath View Post
    Way to ignore my whole post and instead judge my username...

    whats the problem with it? listen to Jedi Mind Tricks...(good rap group). i got the name from them..

    and remeber, as much as God has love, God also has Wrath.. there is no denying that...

    but again, once u comment on my post we can talk.
    you apologize for your faith subjecting myslef, my family and friends to a dhimmi status and we will talk. It is YOUR religion that proclaimed I must never speak of my views to a muslim, it is your religion that refused our congregation the ability to renovate our church and it is your religion that forced us to be chided day in and day out by "moderate" muslims like yourself. The difference between you and I is I believe I am right but am willing to regard you as equals. You on the other hand think you are right and consider your path the truth and try to force it down my throat. But the facts are you can't apologize to one who is so clearly wrong, why should you apologize for an infidels rejection of Allah surely my treatment is just.

    explain this one

    Surat Al-Baqarah 2:216 - Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.

    and you really don't want to start talking about the hadiths do you?
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    Re: US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Who here has stated that they believe the preacher's First Amendment right to free speech should not be recognized? Please link to it.
    I never said anyone said that. Care to re-read my comments, then re-respond?


    The point I'm making, is that now the shoe is on the other foot and the Libs are now acting like the, "racist, islamophobic, stupid pigs". Remember when mosque protestors were called by those names by the, "tolerance", crowd?

    It's high time for a little tolerance from the other side.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If the Lefties want to scream, "tolerance, tolerance, tolerance", they should start by recognizing this preacher's right of free expression and supporting that right, no matter how assinine his actions are.
    Who here has stated that they believe the preacher's First Amendment right to free speech should not be recognized? Please link to it.
    I never said anyone said that.


    Whatever you say, champ.

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    Re: US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    BBC News - US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Is someone trying to muscle in on the Westboro BC's territory? I'm sure US troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan will be delighted people are making such good use of the freedom of speech they are trying to defend with their lives.

    Can or should anything be done to stop this calculated attempt to stir up trouble? Is this like calling 'fire!' in a packed theatre? Or is free speech just too precious?
    If anything, this "pastor" will just end up like Theo Van Gogh did as a result of this. So he's bringing trouble on himself, not on anyone else. If he does, I won't shed a tear since his "church" is a known cult that has abused children (Terry Jones' own daughter has come out about this), so one dead cult leader, plus one radical Islamist arrested sounds pretty good if you ask me.

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    Re: US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post


    Whatever you say, champ.
    Don't call me champ.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

    Quote Originally Posted by TexasSam13 View Post
    If anything, this "pastor" will just end up like Theo Van Gogh did as a result of this. So he's bringing trouble on himself, not on anyone else. If he does, I won't shed a tear since his "church" is a known cult that has abused children (Terry Jones' own daughter has come out about this), so one dead cult leader, plus one radical Islamist arrested sounds pretty good if you ask me.
    That makes alotta sense...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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