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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let me open with this disclaimer. I do NOT condone what this church in Florida plans to do. I think it is intolerant, and inciting while American lives are in direct contact danger in the ME.
    Bravo!

    But I would like to delve beyond the usual argument here, and discuss why it is ok, seemingly, for members of Islam to constantly desecrate things like the American Flag, and burn churches and bibles over there, while here it raises nary a story, but have one whacked church here threaten to burn a Koran, and all hell breaks loose in the press, and on the ground there.
    Because we're better than them. Our founding fathers came up with principles and values, progressive in their day, that were meant to create a national character beyond reproach. But in these little pockets around our country, (NYC, Tenn, Fla) we fall short of that ideal and become like the Afghans, mobs fueled by intolerance and fear.

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Is there a limit in how much broadcast and cable stations should cave into terrorist demands? What if a Christians groups started sending terrorist threats to PBS,discovery,history and science channel to stop showing education programs over evolution? What if some other groups started sending terrorist threats to broadcast and cable stations to stop showing shows and programs that depict same sex relations? What if liberal/leftist groups started sending terrorist threats to FOX news? Should any other stations submit to terrorist demands?
    Of course I am sure you will ignore those hypothetical questions or say those things haven't happened yet in order to avoid answering the question on what limit should broadcast and cable stations cave into terrorist demands.
    Quite frankly, this is WHY the Muslim extremists so dominate the public image of the Muslim people. Its not that I or others tolerate them, excuse them, or just ignore them...its that MUSLIMS tolerate them and ignore them. By ignoring them you give them power. There is but one answer for assholes that threaten to kill people over cartoons. Invite them someplace for a nice friendly discussion and completely and totally obliterate them. Hunt down every last one of them and kill them. Thats EVERYONE...Muslims..Christians...EVERYONE ought to be 100% committed to obliterating those ridiculous inane sick ****s. And anyone that even pokes their head out of a cave and MENTIONS Jihad...I dont care if its in the US on college campuses or in the dirtiest hole in the desert...they should be destroyed...eliminated.

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    All this does is make the evangelicals look bad.

    It's only going to turn more people against them than there already are. If Islam truly is the religion of hate, then I don't see how responding with hate is going to accomplish anything.

    Good political ploy though. It's gotten a lot of people's attention.

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    All this does is make the evangelicals look bad.

    It's only going to turn more people against them than there already are. If Islam truly is the religion of hate, then I don't see how responding with hate is going to accomplish anything.

    Good political ploy though. It's gotten a lot of people's attention.
    But most people don't look at our country as "Evangelicals VS everyone else" they look at everyone one as an equal part of our country.

    They're representing us - however falsely - through their actions . . . and that ticks me off.
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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Is there a limit in how much broadcast and cable stations should cave into terrorist demands? What if a Christians groups started sending terrorist threats to PBS,discovery,history and science channel to stop showing education programs over evolution? What if some other groups started sending terrorist threats to broadcast and cable stations to stop showing shows and programs that depict same sex relations? What if liberal/leftist groups started sending terrorist threats to FOX news? Should any other stations submit to terrorist demands?
    Of course I am sure you will ignore those hypothetical questions or say those things haven't happened yet in order to avoid answering the question on what limit should broadcast and cable stations cave into terrorist demands.
    Think of it in terms of the business. Comedy Central has more to lose by willing choosing to cause the possible deaths of it's employees rather then censoring, and most likely boosting the ratings of, a show many Americans don't watch.

    Is there a limit? that is up for each public/private company to decide on it's self. Personally if I received a letter to my business from an extremist that was going to blow the place up tomorrow I would tell my employees to work from home until the police or FBI gave the all clear. Even then I am sure some employees would still be scared to come back to the office. I would NOT force them to come to work screaming "If we are going to die we will die united against terrorism!".
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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    I am absolutely ashamed of this country.

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Things are starting to look like the religion war era in Europe . . . I thought we were suppose to me modern, advanced and more civilized?
    Don't be shocked. We are merely back on history's course. Two World Wars and a Cold War merely distracted us. It had been made clear since 1991 that the tribes were back. And it has become obvious that this new century is going to haqve a religious theme attached to it. Virtually every religion on earth is going through an internal struggle of identity and they are getting worse. With 9/11, we saw the beginning of a new phase in theongoing cross and crescent wars.

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Does anyone actually argue it is OK? Seriously? Neither is against the law, nor should they be, but I wouldn't equate that to arguing it is OK.

    That said, book burners of all stripes are really ignorant people. Who could do with less of them.
    This is no more OK, than building a mosque on Ground Zero. This is proof that Leftists want things one way.
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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let me open with this disclaimer. I do NOT condone what this church in Florida plans to do. I think it is intolerant, and inciting while American lives are in direct contact danger in the ME.

    But I would like to delve beyond the usual argument here, and discuss why it is ok, seemingly, for members of Islam to constantly desecrate things like the American Flag, and burn churches and bibles over there, while here it raises nary a story, but have one whacked church here threaten to burn a Koran, and all hell breaks loose in the press, and on the ground there.


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    The fact is, J-Mac, that people expect more from Americans than they do from Muslims.

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Quite frankly, this is WHY the Muslim extremists so dominate the public image of the Muslim people. Its not that I or others tolerate them, excuse them, or just ignore them...its that MUSLIMS tolerate them and ignore them. By ignoring them you give them power. There is but one answer for assholes that threaten to kill people over cartoons. Invite them someplace for a nice friendly discussion and completely and totally obliterate them. Hunt down every last one of them and kill them. Thats EVERYONE...Muslims..Christians...EVERYONE ought to be 100% committed to obliterating those ridiculous inane sick ****s. And anyone that even pokes their head out of a cave and MENTIONS Jihad...I dont care if its in the US on college campuses or in the dirtiest hole in the desert...they should be destroyed...eliminated.
    No need to sugarcoat it, VanceMack.

    Why not just say what's on your mind?

    But I agree with you. Everyone has the responsibility to speak out and act against terrorism and its supporters, and it should be as publicly vilified as any other crime against humanity..

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