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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    I'm willing to bet several Afghans have burnt a few bibles in their day. Granted I think the church is acting childish, that is actually the perfect word to sum up this whole dispute, they still have very right to burn what ever book they want.

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh...and hey...\

    as per YOUR article...I think that pretty much backs up what I said, doesnt it...that they bear no resemblence even to the original founders intent from back in 1961? That they ARENT killing in the name of Christianity but that they are nothing more than murderous thugs? Geez...doood....thats your own article!!!
    They themselves say that are killing in the name of Christianity just like Muslim terrorists say they are killing in the name of Islam.

    The difference is I do not associate the extremists with the vast majority who are not extremists. The actions of a tiny minority in no way represent the majority. That is ridiculous.

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I don't have much of a problem with blasting a koran and using the remains for toilet paper
    Why does that not surprise me

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let me open with this disclaimer. I do NOT condone what this church in Florida plans to do. I think it is intolerant, and inciting while American lives are in direct contact danger in the ME.

    But I would like to delve beyond the usual argument here, and discuss why it is ok, seemingly, for members of Islam to constantly desecrate things like the American Flag, and burn churches and bibles over there, while here it raises nary a story, but have one whacked church here threaten to burn a Koran, and all hell breaks loose in the press, and on the ground there.


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    I don't condone their actions, but I'm 100% in support of their 1st Amendment right to do it.

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Burning of religious material is wrong regardless of who is doing it. What the evangelical nutjobs are doing is stooping to the level of ignorant peasants pushed into a frenzy by their a bit more educated religious leaders.

    As for the American flag.. who cares, it is just a flag. American's wear US flag underwear and no one complains.. what is more a front.. burning a flag or taking a piss and fart on it?
    Alotta folks out there--me included--have aid our lives on the line for that flag. Not the Bible, not the Koran, or any other religious text, but damn sure for that flag. One would think that based on that, people would show more respect to our national colors than to any religious text.
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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Alotta folks out there--me included--have aid our lives on the line for that flag. Not the Bible, not the Koran, or any other religious text, but damn sure for that flag. One would think that based on that, people would show more respect to our national colors than to any religious text.
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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let me open with this disclaimer. I do NOT condone what this church in Florida plans to do. I think it is intolerant, and inciting while American lives are in direct contact danger in the ME.

    But I would like to delve beyond the usual argument here, and discuss why it is ok, seemingly, for members of Islam to constantly desecrate things like the American Flag, and burn churches and bibles over there, while here it raises nary a story, but have one whacked church here threaten to burn a Koran, and all hell breaks loose in the press, and on the ground there.


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    This goes along the same lines as depicting Mohammed in cartoons. To do so shows a borderline-childish disrespect for our fellow human beings. I don't condone burning the bible either... people who condemn burners of the Koran but are OK with burning the bible (and visa versa) are hypocrites. But now is as worse a time than ever for Americans to be insulting Muslims. I stand with Petraeus in believing this action will harm our efforts in the Middle East.
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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Burning of religious material is wrong regardless of who is doing it. What the evangelical nutjobs are doing is stooping to the level of ignorant peasants pushed into a frenzy by their a bit more educated religious leaders.

    As for the American flag.. who cares, it is just a flag. American's wear US flag underwear and no one complains.. what is more a front.. burning a flag or taking a piss and fart on it?
    And the Koran is just a collection of paper. I mean, it isn't like it was penned by Mohammad himself.. not the original... and if it isn't in Arabic, it really isn't a big deal anyway... so, the flag is a piece of cloth, the Koran is a collection of paper.... and paper burns very well...
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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    This goes along the same lines as depicting Mohammed in cartoons. To do so shows a borderline-childish disrespect for our fellow human beings.
    Wait, wait....Is satire punishable by death then?

    don't condone burning the bible either... people who condemn burners of the Koran but are OK with burning the bible (and visa versa) are hypocrites.
    Ok, that's a given

    But now is as worse a time than ever for Americans to be insulting Muslims.
    Why? Who dictates that? Muslims themselves? Who says they get to say when it's ok to offend, and when its not?

    I stand with Petraeus in believing this action will harm our efforts in the Middle East.
    I really feel for the General. He has been placed in a no win situation in Afghanistan. He has a CIC that is apathetic to victory, and in some instances placates the enemy more than he leads the troops. And on the American front he has a population in which 50% seem to have given up on even fighting the war in the first place. I wouldn't want to be him.

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    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I don't have much of a problem with blasting a koran and using the remains for toilet paper
    And then when that leads to our own troops who are stationed over seas in the Middle East being attacked and targeted *more viciously* - it's still good, hmm?

    I disapprove of these outward displays *SOLEY* based on the fact that we're actually dealing with emotional-immature people who will take their anger out on the nearest US citizen (military or otherwise) without a single moment of thought on the issue.

    Things are starting to look like the religion war era in Europe . . . I thought we were suppose to me modern, advanced and more civilized?
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