Page 3 of 23 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 221

Thread: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

  1. #21
    Sage
    ric27's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Seen
    06-15-17 @ 02:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    7,539

    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    And we are concerned that a church in Florida is going to burn a qu'ran. Could we have a little perspective please?
    Someone has to bring a package of uncooked bacon. It flies pretty good when you throw it.

  2. #22
    User
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    08-17-11 @ 01:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    41
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let me open with this disclaimer. I do NOT condone what this church in Florida plans to do. I think it is intolerant, and inciting while American lives are in direct contact danger in the ME.

    But I would like to delve beyond the usual argument here, and discuss why it is ok, seemingly, for members of Islam to constantly desecrate things like the American Flag, and burn churches and bibles over there, while here it raises nary a story, but have one whacked church here threaten to burn a Koran, and all hell breaks loose in the press, and on the ground there.


    j-mac

    Its not ok for muslims to do that either... All the qualified saudi Alem's (religious leaders, who surprisingly are actually oppressed in saudi arabia since they can't speak out..much like in egypt) have ALL condemned, suicide bombing, burning of other Holy scriptures, and the killing of innocent civilians

  3. #23
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    10-26-10 @ 06:34 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,978

    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran.
    I think they should retaliate by wiping their butts with Bible pages, and then scattering them around the church lawn.

  4. #24
    Hung like Einstein
    Singularity's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    San Diego
    Last Seen
    12-12-17 @ 05:47 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    1,058

    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let me open with this disclaimer. I do NOT condone what this church in Florida plans to do. I think it is intolerant, and inciting while American lives are in direct contact danger in the ME.

    But I would like to delve beyond the usual argument here, and discuss why it is ok, seemingly, for members of Islam to constantly desecrate things like the American Flag, and burn churches and bibles over there, while here it raises nary a story, but have one whacked church here threaten to burn a Koran, and all hell breaks loose in the press, and on the ground there.


    j-mac
    The answer is that it is not 'okay' for Islam to desecrate the American flag, burn churches, or destroy Bibles. When the so-called liberal/conservative media reports on such things, it's because Americans - conservatives and liberals alike - think to themselves "Wow! What a bunch of idiots over there doing this kinda stuff!" But we expect such things to happen in those backwater theocracies, so it surprises none of us. And because it doesn't generate divisiveness, such things come and go out of the press pretty quickly. But given that the world is full of weirdos, the press can inevitably dig up some dude who thinks they are right to burn the flag, Obama is a Muslim, and America is run by the Illuminati. Some folks may take this strange fellow seriously, but most of us just think he's an idiot, and this story, too, dies out fast.

    When it happens over here, the stories get all discombobulated. A church wants to burn a Koran, folks get upset for whatever reason. They may be Muslims, or they may simply not want this kinda thing to take place over here as well. Or some could even be like me - viewing both religions as equally silly, and wondering why folks really care that some book is being burnt to piss off the other guys. Whatever the reason, this leads said Koran-burners to label those opposing their holy bonfire as Muslim apologists; specifically, liberal, politically-correct Muslim apologists, because when you are gonna start targetting a religious group, you gotta throw in a few more adjectives to include folks who are politically opposed to you. That way, you've successfully mixed politics AND religion, and the arguments can continue for even longer. And since emotionally-charged opinions are a sure-fire way to keep folks watching your programs, such stories are in the news for much longer periods of time.

    By the same token, if Muslims in the West decide to burn a few Bibles to illustrate that they are capable of making uneducated decisions as well, then an equal amount of stupidity follows. Said Bible-burners don't stop at burning the American flag and New Testament, either. They gotta throw a lotta death threats towards anyone who ever said anything bad about their religion, and by 'bad', I mean anything that expresses a different, intelligent point of view often laced with humor. Such people might include atheists, authors, and cartoonists, but are certainly not limited to any one group.

    You'd think that after a time, folks with different religions would learn to get along with one another. After all, the history of religion is filled with the blood of nonbelievers. Yet here we are, burning the Koran, desecrating the flag, and blowing up nice restaurants where folks simply wanted to have a night out on the town, enjoying some baklava and good conversation.
    Last edited by Singularity; 09-06-10 at 02:46 PM.

  5. #25
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    10-26-10 @ 06:34 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,978

    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Or some could even be like me - viewing both religions as equally silly, and wondering why folks really care that some book is being burnt to piss off the other guys.

    That would be my standpoint as well.

  6. #26
    Sage
    ric27's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Last Seen
    06-15-17 @ 02:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    7,539

    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I think they should retaliate by wiping their butts with Bible pages, and then scattering them around the church lawn.
    Rules like that help keep a society in line....."Eat with one hand wipe your ass with another."

  7. #27
    Sage
    VanceMack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,698

    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Look. you just won an argument against yourself in your own head, go flagellate in your yard or something

    I totally condone the murder of christians, guys.
    Again..not what was said. Good lord (oops...good 'heck' dont want to be offensive. Its a simple correlation...If you are going to understand those poor muslims then you have to extend the same understanding to Christians. Who BTW...get 'upset' but I havent seen them behead muslim children to demonstrate that upset or allegiance to God.

  8. #28
    Sage
    PeteEU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Denmark
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,090

    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    I don't have much of a problem with blasting a koran and using the remains for toilet paper
    Neither do I... or with the Bible... or the phone book.
    PeteEU

  9. #29
    Sage
    CriticalThought's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 08:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    18,125

    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But I would like to delve beyond the usual argument here, and discuss why it is ok, seemingly, for members of Islam to constantly desecrate things like the American Flag, and burn churches and bibles over there, while here it raises nary a story, but have one whacked church here threaten to burn a Koran, and all hell breaks loose in the press, and on the ground there.
    Yeah, we really take the moral high road when we fight desecration with desecration.

    I think even a child knows that two wrongs don't make a right.

    I think some people like America to not back down on our principles and to show the same tolerance towards others in the world that we expect the rest of the world to show towards us.

  10. #30
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:28 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,306

    Re: Afghans protest U.S. church's plans to torch Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Yeah, we really take the moral high road when we fight desecration with desecration.

    I think even a child knows that two wrongs don't make a right.

    I think some people like America to not back down on our principles and to show the same tolerance towards others in the world that we expect the rest of the world to show towards us.

    tolerance and respect are two way streets are they not?


    j-mac
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

Page 3 of 23 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •