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    Re: Ariz. governor says she was wrong about beheadings

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So what you're saying is that if Pelosi said that the war in Iraq has led to American soldiers killing innocent people indiscriminately, you'd just put it on her being a politician? Good to know. I'll communicate that to her right now through the same bull**** hotline you're using.
    Not quite. My point is Chappy is making a big issue of the beheadings that were on the border in Mexico and not AZ. You misrepresented my point. My point is that politicians at times misspeak. It is up to us to see the BS. Should they be called on it. Yes. I also was trying to see if Chappy, (who rarely answers questions), would at least state Pelosi has misspoken a time or two and if she would be held to the same standard as Brewer.

    Since you chimed in, can you answer my question about Pelosi? How about her statement of unemployment checks are the fastest way to create jobs. Is this 100% correct?

    IMO, there are very few politicians that don't misspeak, or string the truth a bit to make a point. Do you disagree that there is violance along the AZ border?. As a voter it is up to us to look through the BS and find the truth on the issue.
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    Re: Ariz. governor says she was wrong about beheadings

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    At least she owns up to her mistakes and admits she was wrong. That takes humility and character. Obama on the other hand propagates his failed stimulus as healing the economy and jobs. When will he admit his lies?
    she's a complete moron.

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    Re: Ariz. governor says she was wrong about beheadings

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    she's a complete moron.

    Won't disagree. and she is a terrible speaker. IMO, your title of "moron"could be applied to most members of Congress.
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    Re: Ariz. governor says she was wrong about beheadings

    red morons are capable of taking major swing states by a plurality of TWENTY

    worry

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    Re: Ariz. governor says she was wrong about beheadings

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Won't disagree. and she is a terrible speaker. IMO, your title of "moron"could be applied to most members of Congress.
    maybe not moron, but crook, liar, etc.......

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    Re: Ariz. governor says she was wrong about beheadings

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    red morons are capable of taking major swing states by a plurality of TWENTY

    worry
    how sad. 12345

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    Re: Ariz. governor says she was wrong about beheadings

    Not a beheading , just a shooting and set on fire in AZ. "The Pima County Sheriff's Office has identified a man who was found shot and burned to death in the remote southern Arizona desert near Ironwood Forest National Monument."
    Man found shot, burned in So. Ariz. desert ID-ed - KSWT: Local News, Weather, Sports Yuma, AZ El Centro Imperial Valley, CA |
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    Re: Ariz. governor recants beheadings statement

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So you have zero evidence she knew the information was false. Got it.

    Face it Hatuey. Your entire claim that she "lied" is based on nothing but your own personal bias.
    Here I'll set for you every possible scenario:

    She made the claim based on stuff somebody outside of her staff told her. Which makes her an idiot for not having any of her staff verify the claim.

    She made the claim based on what one of her staffers told her. Which makes her staff seem highly dishonest at the best and sabotaging at worst.

    She made the claim based on what the coroners in the state told her. Which is impossible seeing as how my link disproves any possibility of that having happened.

    So which one is it?
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    Re: Ariz. governor says she was wrong about beheadings

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    maybe not moron, but crook, liar, etc.......
    How is she a crook?


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    Re: Ariz. governor says she was wrong about beheadings

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Not quite. My point is Chappy is making a big issue of the beheadings that were on the border in Mexico and not AZ. You misrepresented my point. My point is that politicians at times misspeak. It is up to us to see the BS. Should they be called on it. Yes. I also was trying to see if Chappy, (who rarely answers questions), would at least state Pelosi has misspoken a time or two and if she would be held to the same standard as Brewer.

    Since you chimed in, can you answer my question about Pelosi? How about her statement of unemployment checks are the fastest way to create jobs. Is this 100% correct?

    IMO, there are very few politicians that don't misspeak, or string the truth a bit to make a point. Do you disagree that there is violance along the AZ border?. As a voter it is up to us to look through the BS and find the truth on the issue.
    I honestly don't care what Pelosi has said or done, I wish her leathery skin would choke her to death. Jan Brewer made claims about clearly fictional beheadings to justify having passed a certain law. That is the issue at hand here. I doubt she mispoke as she has on MANY occasions made claims about illegal immigrants which have later proven to be distortions or simply untrue. With that said, the violence 'along the AZ border' is nothing more than a myth:

    Violence is not up on Arizona border despite Mexican drug war

    "We have not, thank God, witnessed any spillover violence from Mexico," Bermudez says emphatically. "You can look at the crime stats. I think Nogales, Arizona, is one of the safest places to live in all of America."

    document Republic's Sunday front page

    FBI Uniform Crime Reports and statistics provided by police agencies, in fact, show that the crime rates in Nogales, Douglas, Yuma and other Arizona border towns have remained essentially flat for the past decade, even as drug-related violence has spiraled out of control on the other side of the international line. Statewide, rates of violent crime also are down.

    While smugglers have become more aggressive in their encounters with authorities, as evidenced by the shooting of a Pinal County deputy on Friday, allegedly by illegal-immigrant drug runners, they do not routinely target residents of border towns.

    In 2000, there were 23 rapes, robberies and murders in Nogales, Ariz. Last year, despite nearly a decade of population growth, there were 19 such crimes. Aggravated assaults dropped by one-third. No one has been murdered in two years.

    Read more: Violence is not up on Arizona border despite Mexican drug war
    Again, when your argument on mulitple occasions is that a law should be made because people are bringing X,Y and Z into your side but can't seem to back that up with ANY evidence then when you make such an argument again it is clear you're not mispeaking. You're simply making more false claims.
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