Everyone is free to marry someone of their own race and not someone of a different race, so there is no discrimination. (intracial marriage bans)
Everyone is free to marry someone of their own religion and not someone of a different religion, so there is no discrimination. (denominational marriage bans)
Yeah, it didn't work for those and it probably won't work now.
Of course, these reductions need not be legislative - they can be regulatory as well.
No.Specifics are everything here. Does Illinois offer their own?
"Unfairly"? That's subjective and irrelevant. The privilege I have in OH is denied by he state of IL by virtue of IL not having a shall-issue CCW. According to you, this vioplates the 14th.Is there something that would be unfairly denied to you by not allowing you to have such a permit in Illinois?
Irrelevant -- the fact that -I- am not afforded the same privileges in IL that I am in OH means that, according to you, IL has violated the 14th amendment.And are those differences restricting your particular privileges while allowing someone else with a similar permit (or the same one in a different state) the same privileges?
Who cares which court it was? At this point, all that matters is that the good guys won.
The article didn't say but was that the 9th Circus Court of Shlameels? What do you expect?
That's funny, most Americans that I know personally (even here in the heart of the Bible belt) have a much bigger problem with the nonsense being pushed by our fundamentalist Christian minority (less than 10% of the American population, and only 1/3 of .the evangelical Christian population). I'm not sure how you define "radical liberals", but even by your own calculation, you fundamentalists are an even bigger minority.On a serious note if the people don't like the way the Radical Liberals who make up less than 25% of the population get away with all the nonsense
The American people don't want religious fundamentalism. But I have a feeling if we voted in referendum to, say, ban fundies from picketing gay pride parades, you guys would be up in arms about "discrimination!" and "rights!". That's what always cracks me up.
The American people understand this very well, and (as you can see very well), we haven't backed down to the radical fundamentalist minority and their corrupt and underhanded attempts to force their unamerican, authoritarian agenda on us. B)they need to understand that backing down when confronted by their name calling, lying. smear tactics, and all sorts of threats and intimidation, mixed with ample amounts threats of violence we only have to stand together and never never back down.
We all know that fundamentalists struggle with Godlessness and immorality every day. If it wasn't for the depravity aspect, fundie churches would by out of business. Countless child sex scandals, young earth creationist home"schooling", drug-addicted pastors getting caught in gay affairs, child abuse, hatred, stupidity praised as a virture, group thought, financial exploitation, etc etc etcIt's the only way to put an end to the Godlessness and lack of morals and integrity we face almost every day.
Even the very core dogma of fundamentalism is rooted in moral depravity - fundamentalist "Christians" hold the Old Testament law as moral - meaning they believe that infant genocide, mass murder, forced abortions, pedophilia and child sexual slavery, ritual human sacrifice, Nazi-esque theocratic dicatorship (all in the name of their god) was acceptable, just because "Jesus said the Old Law no longer applies". Yet they have the time to whine about gay couples being granted a handful of legal rights, as if that is [i]so]/i] much worse than slaughting and raping children and young girls in "God's name".
Evil Bible Home Page - contains the verses
What's also funny, is that in the New Testament, homosexuality is only mentioned once as a sin (alongside gluttony for that matter, yet fundie churches don't seem to have a big problem with the fatties who make up about 60% of their congregations). Hypocrisy (of the religious leaders) however, is mentioned by Jesus on numerous occaisions, as among the worst sin (Jesus himself never even mentioned homosexuality, so even if he believed it was sinful, it sure didn't hold rank with the religious hypocrites he despised).
So ironically, even by fundamentalists' own dogma, they're still far more immoral than gays (and pretty much anyone else). Sucks to be them, but apparently it's a great time to be gay in Cali.
I take it you're a Mike Savage listener. Go figure.We can start by voting the Bums on both sides of the isle out in Nov.
I become more aware of this every day, the more posts by fundamentalists that I read. B)
Those who stand for nothing fall for anything!
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In same sex marriage bans? A man can marry a woman but a woman can't, and a woman can marry a man but a man can't.
There you go, discrimination. Just because whites and blacks were both discriminated against by interracial marriage bans did not make them just and just be both men and women are discriminated against by same sex marriage bans does not make them just.
Do you want to try again, or was that your best argument?
Again, I don't know why you can't seem to get past that. The only thing I can tell you to do is maybe leave out the term 'sexuality' from your next defense, in the hopes that you eventually understand that we are past that already. I mean it's been addressed an umpteenth amount of times. Is there anything that I can do to help you to move forward here? We just keep going back to you presenting the same argument, me addressing it and refuting it, and you repeating the same argument.