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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    I see no problem with the school allowing this kid to talk about Christ, so long as someone else can talk about whatever deity they want to. Personally I think it would be a riot if some kid gave their valedictorian speech and thanked Satan, lord of hell and slayer of infidels. Because let's face it, if there is a christian afterlife, hell is gonna be filled with rock concerts, orgies, drugs, and alcohol. What's heaven gonna be? Sitting around with the old Bible-thumpers listening to Appalachian gospel music. So anyone with a modicum of common sense would worship the Devil, because that's where the party is gonna be.

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    hell is gonna be filled with rock concerts, orgies, drugs, and alcohol.
    Hmm... I think I'll be a bad boy from now on

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    If this was in fact committed by a Christian,

    Why is it so hard for people to believe that in a state like Tennessee a crime like this would have been committed by a Christian? Is is unheard of for religious institutions to be burnt down in America and more specifically in the South? Yes, yes, I know it happened in the North too but 50 years after the Civil rights movement is it impossible to believe that a state where racism, xenophobia and plain disgust for all that which includes a minority were not all that 'uncommon'(I'm being generous in this post) a generation ago something like this would happen? At the end of the day, we'll have to wait and see who committed but our middle aged white men who are huffing and puffing at the thought of a crime such as this having been committed in Tennessee need to pick up a few history books. This is the same state where this kind of **** comes from:

    Racist e-mail aimed at Obama raises hackles in Tennessee - CNN

    The chairman of Tennessee's Democratic Party wants a Republican legislative aide fired for sending out a "reprehensible" e-mail depicting President Obama as two cartoonish white eyes peering from a black background.

    Obama's image is in the last square of a collage containing portraits of the previous 43 U.S. presidents. The e-mail, which was sent to other GOP staff members, was posted on the Internet Monday.
    Steve Cohen (D, TN-09) called racist by Democrats, returns the favor to Tea Partiers. | RedState

    You know, back in the day, I had a certain sympathy for Democrat Steve Cohen (TN-09): back in 2008 he had been targeted for being a Jew by primary challenger Nikki Tinker, with nary a word of objection made by then Senator and now-President Barack Obama, who Cohen enthusiastically supported. It was obvious, even as early as last year, that this theme would probably be revisited in 2010 by former Memphis Mayor Willie Herenton, if a bit more skillfully. At the time, I was disappointed.
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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If this was in fact committed by a Christian,

    Why is it so hard for people to believe that in a state like Tennessee a crime like this would have been committed by a Christian? Is is unheard of for religious institutions to be burnt down in America and more specifically in the South? Yes, yes, I know it happened in the North too but 50 years after the Civil rights movement is it impossible to believe that a state where racism, xenophobia and plain disgust for all that which includes a minority were not all that 'uncommon'(I'm being generous in this post) a generation ago something like this would happen? At the end of the day, we'll have to wait and see who committed but our middle aged white men who are huffing and puffing at the thought of a crime such as this having been committed in Tennessee need to pick up a few history books. This is the same state where this kind of **** comes from

    Ahh, thats BS. Just more labeling being done by you here hautey. I thought liberals were against guilt by association, I guess that is only when you have to explain it about your own ilk. Perfectly fine if you are doing it to others though.


    Let me tell you something, in my years of life I have lived in every region in the east. I grew up in Lansing MI., married and settled near Baltimore MD, and now live in Greenville SC. And I have to say, that from observation I saw more racism from white liberals in the north growing up, than I do today from southern white conservatives here in the south.

    As for your examples, the aid was fired, what else do you want?

    And your "Young Turks" phone interview of Steve Cohen really doing nothing more than calling those involved with the Tea Party Klansmen, and racists is just another example of how scared you libs are, and how disingenuous liberal shows like the "Young Turks" are....I'll be glad when demo's are swept from power this November, then we'll here the cryin' again.


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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I know you guys hate to be called soldiers. .......I don't mean to be a dick about it, but as much as you may not like to be called a soldier. You are a soldier. Virtually every dictionary defines a marine as a soldier.
    It's a generic term. As is "Army." Marines are specialized. Were we not specialized, we would just be called "Army." "Soldier" implies a specific branch for anybody that knows better. This is why it is not capitalized in a sentence unless it begins the sentence. You obviously know this since you acknowledged that we hate being called "soldiers." Which leads me to believe that you did it on purpose.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post

    I am bitter, and full of hate. Afterall hate is a normal human emotion and anyone who tells you they do not or never have felt the emotion hate is either lying or in denial. [

    I hope you are right and I am wrong about the American Muslim.
    You are wrong about the American Muslim. This does not mean that all are pure and that a handful may seek harm. Of course, that number is absolutely rediculous compared to the non-Muslims across the nation that does harm. But consider these four things:

    1) You allow yourself to feel your hate and justify it as normal human emotion. Our enemies do this and have built a justifcation for never ending hate around it.

    2) Never in the history of war have an entire people been the enemy of another. Obviously some civilizations have decided otherwise and slaughtered man, woman, and child as their enemies. It can be argued that even we did this once. We look back on the American Indian and easily state "too far." War turns into genocide and those who are not our enemy become targets. Germany knows all about this as they declared war on tribes.

    3) The key ingredient to turning Iraq around was support from Iraqi Muslims and advice from cultural experts in Washington who happen to be Muslim. The vast majority of all Muslims, to include within the ME, have wanted equality and democracy since Europeans were colonizing them.

    4) Facing this enemy in Somalia (pre-9/11) and twice in Iraq (post-9/11) has left me with a hunger to understand this enemy.


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    Have a good labor day Marine.
    See? Here you capitalize it and address me for what I am. You have a good day too.

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    You are wrong about the American Muslim. This does not mean that all are pure and that a handful may seek harm. Of course, that number is absolutely rediculous compared to the non-Muslims across the nation that does harm. But consider these four things
    Source please!

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Source please!
    Source for what?

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post

    You are wrong about the American Muslim. This does not mean that all are pure and that a handful may seek harm.
    The declaration of war on terrorism was/is a politically sound strategic move to avoid pushing the fence sitters. What else were we going to declare war on? Anything with the word "Muslim" or any insinuation of a Muslim faction overtly admitted would have inflamed the entire Muslim community.

    Politicians call it the "War on Terrorism" so as to not inflame the Muslims, but we all know what it really is - it is a Jihad on the Jihad and not to dismiss the entire religion, but the fact is most terrorists today are Muslims.

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    I see no problem with the school allowing this kid to talk about Christ, so long as someone else can talk about whatever deity they want to. Personally I think it would be a riot if some kid gave their valedictorian speech and thanked Satan, lord of hell and slayer of infidels. Because let's face it, if there is a christian afterlife, hell is gonna be filled with rock concerts, orgies, drugs, and alcohol. What's heaven gonna be? Sitting around with the old Bible-thumpers listening to Appalachian gospel music. So anyone with a modicum of common sense would worship the Devil, because that's where the party is gonna be.
    Agreed, Singularity, though anyone worshiping Satan probably wouldn't have the smarts to become class valedictorian.

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The declaration of war on terrorism was/is a politically sound strategic move to avoid pushing the fence sitters. What else were we going to declare war on? Anything with the word "Muslim" or any insinuation of a Muslim faction overtly admitted would have inflamed the entire Muslim community.

    Politicians call it the "War on Terrorism" so as to not inflame the Muslims, but we all know what it really is - it is a Jihad on the Jihad and not to dismiss the entire religion, but the fact is most terrorists today are Muslims.
    No it is called the War on Terrorism because that is what we are fighting terrorism. We aren't fighting the Muslim religion, but rather extremists who use a religion to commit acts of terrorism.

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