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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    ... Why are you posting the exact same crap that was refuted three pages ago?

    Separation of church and state in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    While sometimes questioned as possible violations of separation, the appointment of official chaplains for government functions, voluntary prayer meetings at the Department of Justice outside of duty hours, voluntary prayer at meals in U.S. armed forces, inclusion of the (optional) phrase "so help me God" in the oaths for many elected offices, FBI agents, etc., have been held not to violate the First Amendment, since they fall within the realm of free exercise of religion.

    It's sad when the average American can't even tell what is a violation of the 1st Amendment or not.
    They open the House with a prayer led by the elected chaplain. Sure it's a violation for the government for force people to say "so help me God." But it's an abuse of the amendment for schools to ban religion, to remove religious things from public property, and many other things that progressives have warped the amendment to have power over.
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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    They open the House with a prayer led by the elected chaplain. Sure it's a violation for the government for force people to say "so help me God." But it's an abuse of the amendment for schools to ban religion, to remove religious things from public property, and many other things that progressives have warped the amendment to have power over.
    Religion has not been banned from schools.

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    They open the House with a prayer led by the elected chaplain. Sure it's a violation for the government for force people to say "so help me God." But it's an abuse of the amendment for schools to ban religion, to remove religious things from public property, and many other things that progressives have warped the amendment to have power over.
    Opening the House with a prayer is not a violation of the 1st Amendment... Forcing congressman/women to adhere to that prayer is. I think you need to take a class on the Bill of Rights again.

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    This is just blatantly false.
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    Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.
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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Does anyone believe that the treatment of this young woman would have been the same if she wore a burka and thanked Allah?

    Valedictorian speech cut off at the name of Christ

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Religion has not been banned from schools.
    Any mention relating to Christianity certainly appears to be discouraged though.

    New York High School Exam Praises Islam and Attacks Christianity | 2010 Elections, Political News

    Valedictorian's mention of "God" and "Jesus" Forbidden in Graduation speech

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    Valedictorian Must Apologize For Jesus Name Drop in Speech

    Are these people okay with mentioning Allah? Anyone know?

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Does anyone believe that the treatment of this young woman would have been the same if she wore a burka and thanked Allah?

    Valedictorian speech cut off at the name of Christ
    No. A Burka would be fine, but if she started in with too many Allah's...

    Although, how thick did the girl in the story lay it on. Was it a brief, end of the speech thing, or did she start proselytizing?

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    No. A Burka would be fine, but if she started in with too many Allah's...
    What about these students? I'd say no cross, then no burka!

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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    What about these students? I'd say no cross, then no burka!

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    Both of your examples here are because the rosary is used to indicate gang affiliations in the area. I believe the argument is that the right to crack down on gangs in school takes precedence, which in this case I would probably dispute and consider wrong. It's also isolated incidents.
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    Re: Vigil Draws 150 in Support of Tennessee Mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Stop the false allegations and mindless generalizations.
    Exactly! It isn't like an Christian President who under the pretext of acting under direction from God, attacked a predominately Muslim country, and over the course of a war, killed 100,000 Muslims. I mean, that kinda crap just doesn't happen. Christians never attack Muslims.

    Oh wait...

    Bush: God Told Me to Invade Iraq
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