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    Re: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    While I love a good religion-bashing - I'm not chiming in for that.

    Mother Theresa is not at all comparible in any way to Bin Laden - their position in their 'area of specialty' - their purpose and focus in life - all that stuff - really divides them.
    Madame Aunt Spiker - Geert's controversial 2008 film about Islam in the Netherlands, Fitna is one of the ways to counter the spread of violent ideology - by exposing it for what it is.

    Where is the moral outrage when Sharia laws are used to justify the honor rape of hundreds of women in Pakistan?

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    Re: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    Quote Originally Posted by GodsWrath View Post
    Your comments remind me of the people of Pharoah during Moses's time...they use magic to fool everyone..what ur sayign is all a smokescreen..

    you dont know anythign about Islam...continue on with ur rantings.

    Please, tell me? There are many huge differences between the Christian Bible and the Muslm Koran. The Koran teaches that Muslims are superior to all others, that some religions are not even allowed to exist (all except Christian and Jew), and that in a Muslim world, Christians and Jews are 2nd class citizens.

    Counter that

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    Re: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Please, tell me? There are many huge differences between the Christian Bible and the Muslm Koran. The Koran teaches that Muslims are superior to all others, that some religions are not even allowed to exist (all except Christian and Jew), and that in a Muslim world, Christians and Jews are 2nd class citizens.

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    Christianity says anyone who does not accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior goes to hell, and commands its followers to go out and convert people to Christianity.

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    Re: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Christianity says anyone who does not accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior goes to hell, and commands its followers to go out and convert people to Christianity.

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    Are you comparing beheadings to trying to convert someone to a certain religion?
    When was the last time a christian called for a beheading for something negative said about its religion?
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    Re: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Bin Laden is to Muhammed what Mother Theresa is to Christ.
    I think you meant to say: "what Miguel de Torquemada is to Christ". Happy to set you right.
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    Re: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Christianity says anyone who does not accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior goes to hell, and commands its followers to go out and convert people to Christianity.

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    NP.....

    Deuce, I truly think you should step away from this thread while you still can, dude (seriously)

    There is not a single passage in the Old Testament that can be used to or interpreted as saying "Go convert the heathen and kill him if he says no!"

    Neither the Old Testament or the New contain a single instance of anyone being forced to convert, or a single command to forcibly spread the religion. Not one.

    This is an essential difference between Judaism and Christianity, and Islam. A Jew or a Christian can get all uppity and say he's doing it for God. But there is no scriptural basis for doing it and the argument has always failed when confronted with the source documents. Not so for Islam.

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    Re: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    If this thread keeps going the way it's going then perhaps:

    1: Maybe it belongs in the religion section better?

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    2: It will be quite an interesting read.

    As to the OP....is anyone really that surprised? There's always some muslim cleric or a mass of muslims calling for someones life just because that person said something about the muslim religion that they didn't like. /yawn /not new news.
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    Re: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    I'm pretty sure this cleric is the same fellow that said women are 'uncovered pieces of meat' and deserve to be raped, and, despite what some will say, the Muslim community has denounced him as a radical.
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    Re: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    This is an essential difference between Judaism and Christianity, and Islam. A Jew or a Christian can get all uppity and say he's doing it for God. But there is no scriptural basis for doing it and the argument has always failed when confronted with the source documents. Not so for Islam.
    The Old Testament seems quite compatible with the violent tendencies of the wildest Islamists. No Biblical justification for barbarity?

    "If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you." Deuteronomy 22:23
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    Re: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The Old Testament seems quite compatible with the violent tendencies of the wildest Islamists. No Biblical justification for barbarity?

    "If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you." Deuteronomy 22:23
    God didn't command any murders in Deuteronomy. Laws and punishments were given. The Ten Commandments do not contain any commands to kill.

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