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    Re: Strongest jobs recovery in decades.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    9.6% unemployment means we're doing better than we were when unemployment was at 4%?

    Take a break. Carrying all that water must be exhausting.
    Ahh putting words in my mouth... so that is how you react, by attacking me instead of defending you standpoint..
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    Re: Strongest jobs recovery in decades.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Ironic, since it was the lack of government that got you into the ****hole you are in now.. ahh the irony of American conservative economic thinking!

    American conservative thinking = lets **** up the economy with lazzie-faire policies so our friends can get rich, and then to fix the problem... do more of the same!
    I don't argue for strict laissez-faire, but I think the so-called conservatives have given the doctrine a bad name. Under a real laissez-faire policy, their friends would take the same risks as everyone else. What we have instead is a kind of welfare for the rich.

    The Republicans learned a lesson from the Contract With America and the subsequent shutdown of government. That is, Americans love the rhetoric of fiscal responsibility but hate the practice. Therefore, the best way to stay in power is to keep spending while reducing taxes, and never mind the consequences. Right-wing voters will always buy into crony capitalism, regardless of how detrimental it may be to their real interests, as long as the rhetoric sounds good.

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    Re: Strongest jobs recovery in decades.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I try and stay out of economic threads but it is a mystery to me how this is a success in any way
    Quite simply, it is a success because Obama's Czar's choose this as the truthspeak for this Month.

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    Re: Strongest jobs recovery in decades.

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Quite simply, it is a success because Obama's Czar's choose this as the truthspeak for this Month.
    I've already posted my bit on the actual thread topic, and, if no one responds to it, I'll post it again, as it was the last post on the page, and is liable to be missed.

    But right now, I'm more interested in the etymology of the word "Czar" as some sort of business magnate -- any idea where it originated or what exactly it's supposed to mean? It's not in common parlance over here.

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    Re: Strongest jobs recovery in decades.

    This unemployment situation is intolerable. I blame the President first as last.

    People who have jobs have to spend their paycheck helping to take care of their relatives who don't have any income. A lot more should be done to get some jobs going.

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    Re: Strongest jobs recovery in decades.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Ironic, since it was the lack of government that got you into the ****hole you are in now.. ahh the irony of American conservative economic thinking!

    American conservative thinking = lets **** up the economy with lazzie-faire policies so our friends can get rich, and then to fix the problem... do more of the same!
    There was plenty of government that got us into this. Ever heard of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac? Ever heard of lending rate games?

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    Re: Strongest jobs recovery in decades.

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    As much as the Americans like to think that they're the only gem of purity and goodness in the world, and that every other country on the face of the earth ought to either grovel or stay out of America's way,
    I can't speak for every American, but I believe I speak for the vast majority when I say that your characterization of "what Americans like to think" is ridiculous.

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    Re: Strongest jobs recovery in decades.

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    But right now, I'm more interested in the etymology of the word "Czar" as some sort of business magnate -- any idea where it originated or what exactly it's supposed to mean? It's not in common parlance over here.
    It's not a real title, more a nickname given to someone with the responsibility to manage or supervise an administration policy. I suppose it's supposed to connote some degree of independence and power, and it just plain sounds better to say "climate czar" than "special assistant to the President for matters concerning energy and climate change."

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    Re: Strongest jobs recovery in decades.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Jobs recovery is stronger than past recessions - Sep. 2, 2010

    Also from the article:



    Now I would like to ask the folks out there in the audience this question:

    If a second stimulus is needed to avoid a secondary and possibly more severe recession, would you be in favour of it?

    Although the question is irrelevent as the White House has said there will be no second stimulus.

    I think many people out there seriously underestimate just how severe this recession is, and that there is no magic fix for it.
    I preclude my opinion on this by saying, I hate stimulus measures and all the things that make stimulus a required part of our economy.

    The best way to stimulate the economy right now, is to cut checks to the bottom 50% of income earners.
    Some where in the range of $5k-$10k.

    That will be a direct stimulus without it going towards moronic government ideas of "better."
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    Re: Strongest jobs recovery in decades.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Now I would like to ask the folks out there in the audience this question:

    If a second stimulus is needed to avoid a secondary and possibly more severe recession, would you be in favour of it?
    Certainly not. Given the first stimulus failed, such a scenario where a 2nd stiumulus is needed is absurd. There's no scenario where I'd be in favor of a 2nd scenario.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Although the question is irrelevent as the White House has said there will be no second stimulus.
    Someone there finally has learned the difference between **** and shineola.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    think many people out there seriously underestimate just how severe this recession is, and that there is no magic fix for it.
    Magic like "stimulus"? I'd agree. What would be nice is for the White House to stop avoiding jobs and actually address it in something other than more jibba-jabba. But then again, this White House has shown little to no competence on most subjects so perhaps the fix is for Congress and the White House to go play golf for the next few years.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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