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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Given our huge deficits?

    You do realize, if I read everything correctly, that Korea would be selling these guns to us. The US gov't might make a little off taxes and whatnot but they aren't the ones selling the guns.

    You're talking as though they are the US military's guns. They belong to Korea.

    I still think the sale should go through because these guns aren't any worse than what you can buy on the market right now, but it seems like this is mostly just whining about a non-issue.
    you think the US Government is gonna pay as much for guns we GAVE korea as what the government charges us Citizens for them

    so if the US government buys them for 200 a rifle and 150 a carbine and sells them to the OCMP for 500/250 it doesn't help increase our government's finances?



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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you think the US Government is gonna pay as much for guns we GAVE korea as what the government charges us Citizens for them

    so if the US government buys them for 200 a rifle and 150 a carbine and sells them to the OCMP for 500/250 it doesn't help increase our government's finances?
    I read the article and couldn't find anywhere where it said that they were going to sell them to our government and then they'd sell them to us. All it said is that Korea would sell them to american gun collectors and that everyone would have to go through the normal background check process. Where did you get the information that the government was going to buy and resell them?

    Again, I still think the sale should go through, as I myself would even love to be able to buy one of these as a collectors items and a cool piece of americana, but I don't think you're right on the government making a bunch of money off of it.

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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I read the article and couldn't find anywhere where it said that they were going to sell them to our government and then they'd sell them to us. All it said is that Korea would sell them to american gun collectors and that everyone would have to go through the normal background check process. Where did you get the information that the government was going to buy and resell them?

    Again, I still think the sale should go through, as I myself would even love to be able to buy one of these as a collectors items and a cool piece of americana, but I don't think you're right on the government making a bunch of money off of it.
    uh under current laws a foreign government cannot sell weapons to american civilians

    having owned several "reimports" that came from Italy and Korea, I know they went through the US government before ending up here

    CMP Sales

    The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) is a U.S. government-chartered program that promotes firearms safety training and rifle practice for all qualified U.S. citizens with special emphasis on youth.

    M1 Garand Sales



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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh under current laws a foreign government cannot sell weapons to american civilians

    having owned several "reimports" that came from Italy and Korea, I know they went through the US government before ending up here

    CMP Sales

    The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) is a U.S. government-chartered program that promotes firearms safety training and rifle practice for all qualified U.S. citizens with special emphasis on youth.

    M1 Garand Sales
    I can't find too much on it and you seem to be more knowledgable on this than I, but I checked out their forum for this topic and the guy that runs the CMP website has a good explanation.

    http://www.thecmp.org/forums/showthr...ighlight=korea
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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Obama made the wrong decision, and I think it's a violation of the second amendment. Is he serious? The US makes thousands of guns that are more powerful and sophisticated than antique weapons from the Korean war. It's just an excuse to restrict gun rights and the sales of guns.
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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh under current laws a foreign government cannot sell weapons to american civilians

    having owned several "reimports" that came from Italy and Korea, I know they went through the US government before ending up here

    CMP Sales


    The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) is a U.S. government-chartered program that promotes firearms safety training and rifle practice for all qualified U.S. citizens with special emphasis on youth.

    M1 Garand Sales
    And here's a quote from the CMP's CEO:
    The emals and calls keep pouring in to CMP asking about the Korean rifles and carbines. The following is our reply:

    The rumors, reports, articles about Korea have been circulating for at least five years. A few months ago a Korean newspaper once again reported that they would selling Garands and carbines to a US importer. The CMP is not a firearms importer and we do not have any involvement of any kind in anything that may happen with these Korean rifles and carbines.

    The only way any rifle or carbine from any country can find its way to the CMP is if the country returns loaned rifles back to the US Army. When that happens, the CMP "may" possibly receive some of those rifles. According to the recent articles, Korea will not be returning anything to the US Army, but will be "selling" these rifles to an importer. If, in fact, these rifles are sold to an importer, the CMP will not see even one of them. We do not have any additional information on this subject. Thanks for understanding.


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    Like I said, seems to be a bunch of bull**** and whining about nothing just to demonize Obama.

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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    And here's a quote from the CMP's CEO:


    Like I said, seems to be a bunch of bull**** and whining about nothing just to demonize Obama.
    yes and no

    Obama deserves demonization if he is preventing anyone from buying privately arms from a friendly government

    but I commend you for doing some research



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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    "The transfer of such a large number of weapons -- 87,310 M1 Garands and 770,160 M1 Carbines -- could potentially be exploited by individuals seeking firearms for illicit purposes," the spokesman told FoxNews.com.
    yes because garands and m1's are gangsta's 1st choice of weapons. Idiots.



    "We are working closely with our Korean allies and the U.S. Army in exploring alternative options to dispose of these firearms."


    This should be a crime. What an asshole.
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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

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    Of it came from FOX news it must be true!

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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yes and no

    Obama deserves demonization if he is preventing anyone from buying privately arms from a friendly government

    but I commend you for doing some research
    Deserves demonization?

    From what I can tell this same crap has been peddled for five or more years according to the most educated person I can find on the subject. They're having problems negotiating the deal cause of factors other than "Obama hates guns."

    This is a bull**** article that pops up at a convenient time right before elections and conservatives go all chicken little all over the place. It's getting to be pathetic.

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