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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    As opposed to the millions of guns made in America each year that could potentially fall into the wrong hands?

    I don't understand this.
    I guess you don't understand that such an idiotic fear is applicable to the mllions of guns that are sold legally anyway and these guns have very little use to criminals. Over the past 50 years or so (JFK bought a DCM rifle and joined the NRA to do so) millions of these rifles were sold to american civilians and very few were ever misused by those who bought them



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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you know how politics work-even if Obama wants to ban guns, harry reid realizes what would happen to the dems if they tried to do that (see 1994 again) and thus Obama cannot.
    You didn't answer my question. You literally asked me why the party in the minority in both houses of Congress didn't impeach the President, and then stated that because they didn't then they must in fact not hate the President. Personally I doubt many members of congress would say they "hate" the President, and secondly this really shows off your lack of understanding of government.

    As for the 1994 elections, I think its silly to suggest that a single issue drove that election against the democrats. But that again is speculation, as you are doing too, you've offered no evidence to suggest that a new assault weapons ban would affect the outcome of congressional elections.

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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You didn't answer my question. You literally asked me why the party in the minority in both houses of Congress didn't impeach the President, and then stated that because they didn't then they must in fact not hate the President. Personally I doubt many members of congress would say they "hate" the President, and secondly this really shows off your lack of understanding of government.

    As for the 1994 elections, I think its silly to suggest that a single issue drove that election against the democrats. But that again is speculation, as you are doing too, you've offered no evidence to suggest that a new assault weapons ban would affect the outcome of congressional elections.
    I guess you couldn't figure out the analogy. Maybe someone else will explain it to you but the bottom line is

    you cannot disprove my claim that Obama and biden are the two biggest gun haters to be elected to the Oval Office merely by noting they have yet to pass any anti gun laws.



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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You didn't answer my question. You literally asked me why the party in the minority in both houses of Congress didn't impeach the President, and then stated that because they didn't then they must in fact not hate the President. Personally I doubt many members of congress would say they "hate" the President, and secondly this really shows off your lack of understanding of government.

    As for the 1994 elections, I think its silly to suggest that a single issue drove that election against the democrats. But that again is speculation, as you are doing too, you've offered no evidence to suggest that a new assault weapons ban would affect the outcome of congressional elections.
    BTW clinton admitted that the gun ban probably cost the dems control of both houses and Gore noted that the NRA attack on him is why he lost his home state in 2000 (and thus the election) so you can argue with those two if you think you know more about issues than they do



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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Where is my check?
    You're spending it as you type.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Where is my check?
    Where's your tax form for the year these guns were purchased new?

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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess you couldn't figure out the analogy. Maybe someone else will explain it to you but the bottom line is

    you cannot disprove my claim that Obama and biden are the two biggest gun haters to be elected to the Oval Office merely by noting they have yet to pass any anti gun laws.
    You have to prove your right. You can't simply make a statement and assume it to be true without evidence of some kind of evidence and data to back it up? Now if you were to decide which President has been the most anti-gun, why would you weigh statements more than action? The old saying goes actions are louder than words, if I say I'm going to kill someone its much less serious than if I actually kill someone. And not only that but Obama's statements in favor of additional gun control are almost non-existant since he's been President, and he hasn't acted upon his pro-gun control opinions. Clinton however had much stronger language and actually did something.

    Personally I don't see any reason to think Obama is more anti-gun other than your baseless speculation and desire to paint Obama as badly as possible.

    Now I am a gun owner myself, and I think these weapons from Korea should be allowed into the US. And I think Obama, while he may not be gun-friendly, has certainly not done anything against weapons yet, which is far more perferable than past Presidents.

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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Using that logic you could say the government pays for nothing, as you can never tell what spending in the federal budget was borrowed, printed, or actually collected.
    And most anti-gun President in history? What anti-gun laws has he signed? Literally none, and I'm pretty sure none is less than Clinton's Assault Weapon Ban.
    You're right, he loves guns. He a real gun guy.
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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You're right, he loves guns. He a real gun guy.
    I literally said the exact opposite in the post right before yours...

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    Re: Obama Administration Reverses Course, Forbids Sale of 850,000 Antique Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I literally said the exact opposite in the post right before yours...
    Too bad you had to argue with Turtle for a couple page before finally stating your opinion.
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