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    Re: CEOs lay off thousands, rake in millions

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Attractive as political narratives might appear, hiring intent depends on business' growth prospects. Notice how hiring expectations have gradually increased as CEO's expectations for sales growth have increased:

    http://www.businessroundtable.org/si...010Q2%20V1.pdf

    Currently, the economy is moving through a soft patch as the handoff between public sector support for aggregate demand to private sector support is in its early stages. Not surprisingly, a somewhat more recent survey indicated that CEOs had grown somewhat more cautious.

    The expansion of payrolls usually lags upticks in capital spending, as new employees entail recurring costs. Therefore, the increase in the revenue stream needs to be reasonably durable if firms are to expand their payrolls. Hence, confidence in the strength and durability of an economic expansion is key to robust payroll growth. Firms don't want to be put into a situation where they hire workers and then almost immediately have to lay them off should economic growth come in weaker than expected. Such a move would only undermine their own credibility with respect to prospective employees and undermine the morale of current employees.
    yes

    put far more simply, for the benefit of the bottom half of the class, 2 + 2 = 4

    except, i don't think very many americans find "attractive" our most hi profile "political narratives"

    party on!
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    Re: CEOs lay off thousands, rake in millions

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense. the top 1% of earners in this country pay something like 75% of the tax burden or somthing like that. 50% of the population pays no tax at all. How about we institute a flat tax and make everyone pay. Wouldn't that be fair?


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    Could you please site your claims to at least a link. You seem to forget all the loopholes for the rich, and the fact that many corporations pay little if any taxes. Warren Buffet's secretary pays more in taxes then he does. He has said that himself.

    YouTube - Warren Buffett's Tax Rate is Lower than His Secretary's

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    Re: CEOs lay off thousands, rake in millions

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyborg View Post
    What is patently obvious is Liberals have about 1% understanding what is entailed in running a business.

    Most of them have a - "You make too much money - and I deserve some of what you earned - even though I did nothing to earn it."

    I never hear any of that Vitriol directed at Hollyweird actors and actresses, Money making bands, Sports figures, Oprah Winfrey and others.

    No it's all reserved for Evil Business and Evil Corporations and Banks.

    However if Obama is successful you will soon find out what poor actually means. The low income who all currently pay no taxes are not going to get a free ride in the suffering. You will suffer more - because you will establish yourself on the economic Slavery Plantation of Perpetual Dependency. The Government largesse will not continue. You will have lots of competition particularly if amnesty is provided.

    Do you run a business? I run two, and although I consider my self progressive I have no idea what you're talking about.

    I've notice a trend with your posts. You blame everyting on so called "liberals." Me thinks your brain has been fried by too much Rush Limbaugh.

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    Re: CEOs lay off thousands, rake in millions

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Could you please site your claims to at least a link. You seem to forget all the loopholes for the rich, and the fact that many corporations pay little if any taxes. Warren Buffet's secretary pays more in taxes then he does. He has said that himself.

    YouTube - Warren Buffett's Tax Rate is Lower than His Secretary's
    Taxation is not about what everyone should pay; it is about what amount the government needs to carry out it's essential functions. The idea that somehow people who have more should pay a higher percentage of it in taxes displays a total perversion of the idea behind taxes. The tax code is not a tool for implementing economic reform or equality, nor should it ever be.

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    Re: CEOs lay off thousands, rake in millions

    Hewlett Packard:

    310,000 employees
    $118 billion in revenue

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    Re: CEOs lay off thousands, rake in millions

    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasian View Post
    Pure ignorance. The CEOs job is to make money for the shareholders. It isn't to provide a job for those stupid and lazy enough to be relegated to worker bee status.



    Yes. Firing employees whose services are no longer beneficial to the company is an integral part of running a successful business.



    How's it not? The only time it appears fallable is when the dumbass government sticks their nose into it.



    Exactly.



    Yes, most CEOs/founders/owners/businessmen are in better financial shape than you and the like. There's a reason for that.

    What a company/CEO decides about their pay/bonuses is none of your, a likely 9-5 ham and egger, damn business.
    exactly......the ceo's job is to make money. so, the company loses money, and the ceo fires employees. the ceo gets a bonus. wonderful.

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    Re: CEOs lay off thousands, rake in millions

    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasian View Post
    I love the fact you left "smart" out of the equation. I'ver never met someone who was smart and hard-working who wasn't, at least, living comfortably. (2 story house, a couple of cars, pretty wife, maybe a kid or two, etc.)
    wow...i've met plenty of idiots who inherited their money. not smart, not hard working. and there are plenty of people who are smart and hard working who are struggling.

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    Re: CEOs lay off thousands, rake in millions

    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasian View Post
    The scientists at Pfizer are highly skilled and intelligent. Not everyone has the ability to do what they do. Anybody can do the jobs the class warfare folks b!tch about losing to outsourcing, etc.
    you're something else. i'm not sure what.

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    Re: CEOs lay off thousands, rake in millions

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    exactly......the ceo's job is to make money. so, the company loses money, and the ceo fires employees. the ceo gets a bonus. wonderful.
    Nobody is gauranteed a job for life. Look at the stats I posed for number of employees and revenue for Hewlett-Packard. Sometimes people have to lose their jobs to save the company and the jobs of the many other people who work for the company. Things change in the economy and you have to adapt. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of employees got a nice severace. Its pretty common for large companies like HP. I also bet at least some of these people got another job. I know its hard not to be jealous of some of these CEO's. I am a little jealous too but this is not some terrible thing when you take into consideration the tremendous amount of money and employees involved.

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    Re: CEOs lay off thousands, rake in millions

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    That's fine, but can you prove that belief?
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    Please. Some are smarter than others. Some can jump higher. Some are faster. Some are beautiful; some are hideous. Some are tall; some are short. Natural ability is the determiner in almost everything anyone does. You may be a fine chess player, but no matter how hard you study, practice, etc., you couldn't beat a drunk Bobby Fischer.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    exactly......the ceo's job is to make money. so, the company loses money, and the ceo fires employees. the ceo gets a bonus. wonderful.
    The CEO fired the employees because they weren't needed. Period. Not sure why you can't understand that.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    and there are plenty of people who are smart and hard working who are struggling.
    I don't know any; granted, we likely run in different circles. A friend of mine's drunk brother was recently fired; time it took for him to find a new job? 2 weeks.

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