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    Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers, Study Finds - TIME

    Why the **** hasn't anyone posted this yet? This is cause for a massive celebration with lots of alcohol! **** Yeah. I knew that wine I've been drinking nightly was good for something.

    One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink actually tend to die sooner than those who do.
    Moderate drinking, which is defined as one to three drinks per day, is associated with the lowest mortality rates in alcohol studies. Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve heart health, circulation and sociability, which can be important because people who are isolated don't have as many family members and friends who can notice and help treat health problems.
    Related: Study: Alcohol Abstainers at Higher Risk of Depression - TIME

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Sweet. This will now fuel my drinking even more!

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    I hope results like this come out for Marijuana users, too bad I just don't enjoy Alcohol.
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    The linked article neither states nor supports the notion that heavy drinkers outlive nondrinkers. It compares moderate to no drinking. Alcoholism is a serious health risk and leads to substantially shortened lifespan

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    The linked article neither states nor supports the notion that heavy drinkers outlive nondrinkers. It compares moderate to no drinking. Alcoholism is a serious health risk and leads to substantially shortened lifespan
    Actually, it did.

    But even after controlling for nearly all imaginable variables — socioeconomic status, level of physical activity, number of close friends, quality of social support and so on — the researchers (a six-member team led by psychologist Charles Holahan of the University of Texas at Austin) found that over a 20-year period, mortality rates were highest for those who had never been drinkers, second-highest for heavy drinkers and lowest for moderate drinkers.
    Moderate drinkers lived the longest.
    Followed by heavy drinkers.
    Followed by non-drinkers.

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink actually tend to die sooner than those who do. The standard Alcoholics Anonymous explanation for this finding is that many of those who show up as abstainers in such research are actually former hard-core drunks who had already incurred health problems associated with drinking.
    Wait what?

    Those who abstain from the alcohol are actual former drinkers who had health issues in this study? How about those who have never had a drink?


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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    The answer to that question is obvious. The heavy drinkers spend their lives well pickled and preserved.
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers? Because god hates prudes.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Wait what?

    Those who abstain from the alcohol are actual former drinkers who had health issues in this study? How about those who have never had a drink?
    No no... it's easy to misread that, but you have to read on to the next paragraph. The thing is, there have been many studies like this one that have seen similar results. AA has said in the past that this was due to "many of those who show up as abstainers in such research are actually former hard-core drunks who had already incurred health problems associated with drinking."

    BUT.... this study takes that into account and says:

    But a new paper in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research suggests that — for reasons that aren't entirely clear — abstaining from alcohol does actually tend to increase one's risk of dying even when you exclude former drinkers.

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    How about those who have never had a drink?
    They suck and we don't care about them.

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