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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    WGAS. I'd rather die 10 years earlier but have more fun than to live an extra 10 years and be bored.

    Now is time for a 6 pack and some smokes.
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I linked two studies, one I marked as "related" and it had to do with happiness/depression. But the main one, Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers, Study Finds - TIME , has to do with longevity. (This is the actual study - the other link is the article about the study)

    I also linked to a page that had several studies done by multiple places in the US, including Harvard, China, and other countries that all drew the same conclusions.

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    Ahhh! there we go - thanks for clearing that up. You were referring to this study - not the other.

    It's interesting that they consider 1-3 drinks *per day* as a moderate drinker.

    I would have connected that with *heavy drinking* . . 1-3 drinks of any type is enough to get me plastered. I'd wake up with a hangover if I drank that *every night* - So I'm believing that tolerance and *type of drink* makes a difference.
    Champagne or Whiskey?

    So - the study that does focus on longevity does admit that life might be longer - but it'll probably suck more. Pick your poison.
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I know on a biochemical level, that if you introduce a toxin to the body, the liver will become much more active, and in turn will purge other toxins. For example, in TCM, people who have really bad psoriasis are often viewed as having built up toxicity in the body. We treat it by introducing some toxic herbs which kick the liver into high gear. Through purging the toxic herbs, other oxidants in the body get purged, and the skin clears up. Often, these herbs are introduced to the body through alcohol solutions, like warmed rice wine, because the alcohol will enter the liver directly and carry the herbs with it.

    People who drink regularly surely have higher liver enzyme levels, which is why moderate drinking would bring some benefit to the body. But you'll notice that heavy drinkers come in second, because the alcohol toxicity begins to cancel out the detoxing effects; and of course, non-drinkers don't have boosted liver metabolism at all.


    I suggest people consult a doctor before engaging in this sort of activity. When your liver is under stress trying to remove toxins from your body, adding more toxins can result in liver failure. acetaminophen is a toxin that kicks the liver into "high gear", I wouldn't suggest binge drinking with it.
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't know how credible the study is, but I don't see moderate alcohol consumption to be very damaging. I would imagine heavy drinkers to be more obese though and die sooner due to liver/kidney problems. I also wonder if more non drinkers smoke, because smoking is far worse than alcohol.
    I'll bet the booze lobbyists concocted this fable to sell more booze, not to promote better health. I'm always suspicious of altruism when big money is involved.

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    You also suspect that the explosions in the gulf on the oil rigs were sabotage. You seem rather suspicious in general.

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    As for me, I plan to have a couple of beers this evening in honor of this thread.

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You also suspect that the explosions in the gulf on the oil rigs were sabotage. You seem rather suspicious in general.
    I'm always suspicious where big money and power are involved...

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    I'll bet the booze lobbyists concocted this fable to sell more booze, not to promote better health. I'm always suspicious of altruism when big money is involved.

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    So... they concocted the 117 sources used for this info too? Even the ones in other countries?

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    So... they concocted the 117 sources used for this info too? Even the ones in other countries?

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    Like he said - big power and money.

    They use to have Dr's claim that smoking was fine, so were White Castle Burgers . . . and backed it up with 'testimonies' and othe 'real-life' claims and examples of how great things were.

    It's a common practice.

    But looking at the high number of alcohol sales I don't see that people really give a ****
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I'm sure you would find it ironic since you made it all up.

    No one has gotten outraged about anyone eating a few snacks a day. I couldn't ****ing care less. I also couldn't care less if people choose to drink themselves into oblivion 24/7. The only part I care about is if I'm footing the bill for it.

    Need some more straw for your next strawman?
    Well you musta not read that other thread then.. There was a whole lot of outrage. Anyways sorry for offtopic.

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