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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Heavy Drinkers are about six times more likely to develop oral cancer than non-drinkers...

    Why is that?....Any heavy drinkers in the house?

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    No I mean in the sense that we can get get C6H12O6 from complex carbohydrates which are better for us as they are slower to digest...............Oh! You are confusing sugar with GLUCOSE - different thing altogether..
    No, they aren't different things altogether. Glucose is a sugar.

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, they aren't different things altogether. Glucose is a sugar.
    Not in the body it is not and sugar is VERY different from glucose. It was white refined sucrose that I was thinking of NOT glucose. And my point was that there are those who will take ANY news they think is even remotely favourable to justify beliefs

    i.e. Drinking is good for me - while downing 3-4 drinks a day

    OR the diabetic who is so thinks it is fine to eat a box of candy after each insulin shot because "sugar is good for you"

    I know it is irrational - but it is also very very human
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    Not in the body it is not and sugar is VERY different from glucose.
    glucose: Definition from Answers.com

    A monosaccharide sugar, C6H12O6, occurring widely in most plant and animal tissue. It is the principal circulating sugar in the blood and the major energy source of the body.


    Glucose - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    a simple sugar (monosaccharide), is an important carbohydrate in biology

    I could go on, but really. It's a sugar. And it's required by our bodies in order to survive. Diabetics can't avoid it, they NEED it. Type 1 diabetics just can't produce enough insulin to control it, so they require insulin.

    It was white refined sucrose that I was thinking of NOT glucose.
    Very well then, but you SAID sugar, which encompasses more than just sucrose.

    And my point was that there are those who will take ANY news they think is even remotely favourable to justify beliefs

    i.e. Drinking is good for me - while downing 3-4 drinks a day
    Well, according to the multiple reports from various independent researchers, institutions, and countries, that WOULD be healthier than abstaining

    OR the diabetic who is so thinks it is fine to eat a box of candy after each insulin shot because "sugar is good for you"

    I know it is irrational - but it is also very very human
    Education is a good thing. Reading is good too, which is why it's good to note the hazards of excessive drinking they mention in this study and in every other one. This study (and all of the others) specify that moderate drinking is good for you. If a diabetic thinks that moderate sugar consumption is a box of chocolates, then that's really their own retardedness getting the best of them. I'll thank them for helping to clean out the gene pool.

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    There is a difference between being an alcoholic and being a moderate drinker. I have 3-4 drinks a week (beer, wine or cider), and have never had issues with my liver.
    My husband is an alcoholic and he *rarely* drinks.

    Alcoholism isn't just "drinking a damn lot all the time" - it can include binge drinking which can occur sparingly (few times a year - special celebrations frequency). It's psychological and physical altering addiction, evident in your attitude and mood - not just in your # of drinks you average per week or so.

    Frequency of drink consumption is not a measure of alcoholism.
    Huge difference.
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    My husband is an alcoholic and he *rarely* drinks.
    That would technically make him a recovering/reformed alcoholic.

    You can't become addicted to something unless you do it regularly, by definition. And if you are addicted to it, you want to do it regularly, even constantly.

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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    That would technically make him a recovering/reformed alcoholic.

    You can't become addicted to something unless you do it regularly, by definition. And if you are addicted to it, you want to do it regularly, even constantly.
    Some people are addicts in nature and always crave *something* - you don't have to consume it regularly to want it, crave it, be an addict, need it, depend on it (physically or psychologically)

    It's not like a broken leg that heals or a cold that goes away. He *is* and alcoholic = he can never *ever* touch it and he always is tempted to swing by the liquor store - he craves it, eventhough it's been a very long time since he's had any. . . he *is* an alcoholic. . . as long as he keeps that in his mind he can handle it. The moment he thinks "I'm not an alcoholic anymore!" is the moment he'll have another binge episode.

    We (he and I) won't consider him a 'recovered' alcoholic until he actually doesn't crave it, anymore. . . and he might never get passed the cravings and temptation.

    But all this is aside the OP
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    No I mean in the sense that we can get get C6H12O6 from complex carbohydrates which are better for us as they are slower to digest...............Oh! You are confusing sugar with GLUCOSE - different thing altogether..

    SUCROSE is the refined carbohydrate that the Western world is currently killing itself with
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Sounds like the best option is to be a light to moderate drinker.

    I probably qualify as very light...

    My last drink was ~ 4-6 months ago, at least.
    You are virtually at non-drinker status and will die early.
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    Re: Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You are virtually at non-drinker status and will die early.
    Well, ****!

    Does it help if the drink in question was an alcoholic additive to coffee?


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