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    Re: Two Men on United Flight from Chicago Arrested on 'Preparation of a Terrorist Att

    These were obviously deranged individuals angry at GW Bush and chose an ugly, spiteful way to express themselves.
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    Re: Two Men on United Flight from Chicago Arrested on 'Preparation of a Terrorist Att

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Well, there are some really good intelligent ones out there...no doubt.
    Well yeah, alot of them tend to take chemistry or engineering in Uni or at least the ones in UK do

    The people who look most obviously Muslim. Hijab, beard, a tagiyah are those least likely to be a terrorist as the aim is to not draw attention to one self.


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    Re: Two Men on United Flight from Chicago Arrested on 'Preparation of a Terrorist Att

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What do you think their parents choice for their name would mean?
    I don't know. What do you think Cassius Marcellus Clay's parent's meant by their choice of his name?

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    Re: Two Men on United Flight from Chicago Arrested on 'Preparation of a Terrorist Att

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    For a second I was nervous, thinking it would be a Tea Party member or a member of a right wing militia.

    Not.

    My bet was whether one would have Abdul or Hussein in his name. Lost both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Well, I guess with names like John Smith and Joe Jones, that whole myth that most terrorists are Islamic males just went down the tubes....
    We get it. You guys would like to use racial profiling to more thoroughly scrutinize potential Muslim terrorist.

    On the one hand, I actually agree. Airlines do have passenger manifest they can use to screen against terrorist watchlists. Problem is these lists are held by U.S. Customs agents, not at airline baggage checks. I'd be for changing that except for expediency's sake, I doubt any airline will go that route...too many delays and no airline wants to be seen as profiling passengers.

    The other problem with using racial profiling to catch Muslim extremist/suspect Muslim terrorist is we'd certainly miss quiet a few since not all Muslims who go the route of extremist/terrorist look the part, i.e., homegrown terrorist or Muslims from part of Africa. You just wouldn't be able to catch them by name or looks alone. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine that if you look like an Arab or Middle-Eastern male, book a flight to or from any country known to harbor terrorist or has been used to funnel money through said country for terrorist activity should be watched very closely.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I'm so glad we have fool proof security at all of our airports..... imagine what could have happened if they had gotten box cutters aboard like the 9/11 hijackers did and not just cell phones and Pepto-Bismol.
    On the surface of it, I thought it was odd also that these guys were allowed to continue on their flight, but is it possible that the Birmingham Airport tipped off Customs and they allowed the passengers to continue on their flight until the the FBI could get more information about the terror suspects and their terror plot? Granted, by the time they got whatever information they were looking for it could've been too late, but is it possible security wasn't as lacked as it appears? Afterall, the plot - dry-run though it might have been - was discovered and thrawrted.
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    Re: Two Men on United Flight from Chicago Arrested on 'Preparation of a Terrorist Att

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    For a second I was nervous, thinking it would be a Tea Party member or a member of a right wing militia.

    Not.

    My bet was whether one would have Abdul or Hussein in his name. Lost both.

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    Re: Two Men on United Flight from Chicago Arrested on 'Preparation of a Terrorist Att

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Airlines do have passenger manifest they can use to screen against terrorist watchlists. Problem is these lists are held by U.S. Customs agents, not at airline baggage checks.
    Actually, federal laws now require passengers to provide their full name, DOB, and other information when they book the flight. Airlines have plenty of time to check these against terror watch lists.

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    Re: Two Men on United Flight from Chicago Arrested on 'Preparation of a Terrorist Att

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    These were obviously deranged individuals angry at GW Bush and chose an ugly, spiteful way to express themselves.
    The only deranged individuals as of late are "Tea Partiers" - and they love Bush, so your comment is EPIC FAIL.



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    Re: Two Men on United Flight from Chicago Arrested on 'Preparation of a Terrorist Att

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Actually, federal laws now require passengers to provide their full name, DOB, and other information when they book the flight. Airlines have plenty of time to check these against terror watch lists.
    What I was trying to get at is names alone don't cut it. Faces, destination, unauthorized or suspect carry-on items, suspecious behavior all go into catching the bad guys where air travel is concerned. But yes, monitoring passenger manifests more closely I'd think would be the first place to start.

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    Re: Two Men on United Flight from Chicago Arrested on 'Preparation of a Terrorist Att

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    We get it. You guys would like to use racial profiling to more thoroughly scrutinize potential Muslim terrorist.
    The sad fact of the matter, a fact you obviously are oblivious to, is all this good police work keeps pointing to one group....That same group that wants to cry "we are victims of discrimination". They are not victims they are the perpetrators.

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    Re: Two Men on United Flight from Chicago Arrested on 'Preparation of a Terrorist Att

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    The only deranged individuals as of late are "Tea Partiers" - and they love Bush, so your comment is EPIC FAIL.
    You obviously fail at sarcasm dear, sarcasm. I was picking on the MSM and people that excused the Ft. Hood Terrorist with every excuse they could come up with NOT to call the guy a terrorist.

    Now, since you're new here, like this month, I'll let you learn from this mistake and improve yourself.
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