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U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

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Because you are either a Muslim or a non Muslim or, as they would have it, a Muslim or an infidel. You might also, at best, be a Dhimmi.

Right. Jetboogieman said it himself..... "Muslim Americans". Which comes first. Namely that they consider themselves Muslims before US citizens. Jet should ask several hundred or thousand Muslims if they consider themselves Muslims or US citizens first and where they get their guidance and that will be the end of the discussion.
 
Right. Jetboogieman said it himself..... "Muslim Americans". Which comes first. Namely that they consider themselves Muslims before US citizens. Jet should ask several hundred or thousand Muslims if they consider themselves Muslims or US citizens first and where they get their guidance and that will be the end of the discussion.

One is a religion, the other is a nationality.

You should ask the several million Christians in America if they consider themselves Christians or US citizens first, and where they get their guidance from.

Hint: If they say "God and/or Jesus", that means they are traitors hell-bent on destroying the Constitution! :roll:
 
One is a religion, the other is a nationality.

You should ask the several million Christians in America if they consider themselves Christians or US citizens first, and where they get their guidance from.

Hint: If they say "God and/or Jesus", that means they are traitors hell-bent on destroying the Constitution! :roll:

Jet said it - "Muslim Americans". Which comes first.

Are you actually claiming that you have asked several hundred Muslims if they consider themselves Muslims or US citizens first?
 
Jet said it - "Muslim Americans". Which comes first.

Are you actually claiming that you have asked several hundred Muslims if they consider themselves Muslims or US citizens first?

Does it matter? Is thinking going to be a crime now?
 
Jet said it - "Muslim Americans". Which comes first.

Are you actually claiming that you have asked several hundred Muslims if they consider themselves Muslims or US citizens first?

So then you hold the same to those that consider themselves Jewish Americans or Hindu Americans or any other religion Americans?
 
Come on folks, isn't it obvious, all and every muslim is wonderful and peace loving. Its all OUR fault that some of them forget that at times. If we just do every single solitary thing the radical...err, I mean, peace loving but pushed to the edge by those evil westerners....muslims want then there wouldn't be any more terrorism. Why can't you all understand that its so simple!? Just stop supporting Israel, legitimize Hamas, act like the Middle East is a wonderful utopia that can never have any affect on the outside world so should be completely ignored, and be sure to flick off any allies that they dislike before you boot them over the cliff. Just follow those simple steps and us foolish westerners would stop forcing the rad-...there I go again...segment of peace loving muslims pushed to the edge and made temporarily insane by the evil and vileness of the rest and we'll all be happy and wonderful and rainbows!

WTF? Why are you a mod?
 
Okay you have some sort of histrionic thing going on, obviously. You're too intent on jibe and small point to point debate victories to think that I may be talking about european colonialism and probably to much of an egotistical american to admit that other nations have been fighting terror before our country was formed.

Oh for God's sake. *shakes head* I am intent on you giving some sort of explanation to your silly hypothesis. I know you consider yourself just plain too smart for the room here, but in the end you are no different than any other liberal in your argument. You use talking points and extreme insult, and snark to make your point, and when challenged instead of actually arguing the point, you resort to insult and denigration. As if that makes you look anything but foolish.

Well, I tried to have a conversation with you, and to no surprise you only want to talk with those that agree with you, so have fun in that echo chamber of yours.
c-ya.


j-mac
 
Ads wont work, the only thing that will defend yourself from being assaulted is the second amendment. Then you'll see who the true 2nd Amendment defenders are.
 
Well, I tried to have a conversation with you, and to no surprise you only want to talk with those that agree with you, so have fun in that echo chamber of yours.
c-ya.
j-mac

You know, that's exactly the conclusion I reached a few weeks back, on your front.
 
You know, that's exactly the conclusion I reached a few weeks back, on your front.

Not at all Boop, and I can be persuaded on certain things. You may have a point that in some heated arguments I have said some things that are off color, and for that I apologize, however, I argue things as I see them, and rather enjoy the back and forth of a good ideological tussle.

I am just a little surprised at you feeling this way about me, I thought we had some good conversations, and never looked down on you for holding your views, as SE102 seems to do with me. however, maybe as we go on there is hope for continued discussion. We will have to see eh? I am a conservative, I make no apologies for that as I would not expect you, or any other liberal to make apologies for what they believe, but I do expect to further discussion when I question what someone means, or ask them to explain further, and I don't expect to be attacked for it.

j-mac
 
Not at all Boop, and I can be persuaded on certain things. You may have a point that in some heated arguments I have said some things that are off color, and for that I apologize, however, I argue things as I see them, and rather enjoy the back and forth of a good ideological tussle.

Anytime I see a post such as yours, I think we have a chance. When people can see and speak to each other as people rather than labels, then maybe we can get somewhere with polite discourse.

Thank you.
 
Yes I do.

But I fail to see what that has to do with Muslim Americans that have been unfairly judged because of those Extremists.

Which is what the thread, the ad and the OP is about.

Jetnboogieman, How can you tell the difference between an extremist Muslim and a non extremest Muslim?
 
Jetnboogieman, How can you tell the difference between an extremist Muslim and a non extremest Muslim?

How can you tell the difference between a White Athiest, a White Christain, a White muslim, an Asian Bhuddist, a Philipino Catholic, a indonesian muslim, a japanese Christain, a japanese shintoist...
 
Jetnboogieman, How can you tell the difference between an extremist Muslim and a non extremest Muslim?

What's your point?
 
That depends on who you ask. There are plenty of Baptists that think Catholics aren't true Christians.

There are many goofy people around who would ask silly questions like that but in fact they are all Christians. Unless you have some data to support this silliness lets just move on.
 
Sure it is. Americans who are Muslims are American Muslims. The rest are international Muslims. What was so hard about that?

Do you feel these people are American first or Muslim first?
 
Im not going to answer your question because its seriously a loaded crock of **** that equates the foundation of islam with Jihadist terror itself. I
]Im not going to answer your question because its seriously a loaded crock of **** that equates the foundation of islam with Jihadist terror itself

And yet that was the case.

if you need to avoid certain unpleasant parts of history you're knowledge of anything is going to be rather spotty, and it shows here.
 
How can you tell the difference between a White Athiest, a White Christain, a White muslim, an Asian Bhuddist, a Philipino Catholic, a indonesian muslim, a japanese Christain, a japanese shintoist...


Was that the question you wanted me to answer,jetboogieman?

Don't waste my time, ok???
 
Do you feel these people are American first or Muslim first?

Are you human first or male first (a human male or a male human)?

The question is flawed in that you are both at the same time. Asking 'first' implies that one comes before the other.
 
Is there a different Qu'ran followed by American Muslims as opposed to say, Somali Muslims, as opposed to Bosnian Muslims?


j-mac

Who knows. You theist types are always changing around your books and rules and such. I can't keep up with it all. Also, I don't care. The point of contention was not over which flavor of Islam they followed, but rather whether or not you could seperate out American Muslims from international Muslims. I just told him how it can easily be done.
 
Do you feel these people are American first or Muslim first?

I feel like I don't give a ****. They're Americans so they can do and think as they like. If they move in a way which infringes upon the rights of others, the police/government can intercede. Until that point, they're free to do as they like. It's a free country.
 
Do you feel these people are American first or Muslim first?

Don't quote me, but I'm virtually positive they are people first.
 
Are you human first or male first (a human male or a male human)?

The question is flawed in that you are both at the same time. Asking 'first' implies that one comes before the other.

You obviously know nothing of Islam, Degreez, so the question is why you are even on this thread? Why? Do you actually feel you have something to contribute?
 
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