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U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

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Laila said:
I honestly do think politics causes terrorism more than Islam ever will.
I am not going to lie and say Islam plays no role whatsoever in perhaps helping recruitment for some like Al Qaeda or justification for their actions for those like the Taliban but it doesn't matter how remote one goes, politics is weaved into it and 9/10. The politics will include a Muslim country which has some sort of problem.

Saying that, politics is not and never will be justifiable reason to kill innocent people. Those terrorists are murderers and they will go to hell for the murders they do. I just acknowledge that politics has a role in it.
That does not mean I am shifting blame from anyone but those responsible.
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So, it's just coincidence that those political terrorists are, for the most part, Muslims?
 
Laila said:
I cannot judge whether you are serious or not.

The only decent thing in that post was the hello kitty.
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Oh, he's being very sarcastic.
 
apdst said:
So, it's just coincidence that those political terrorists are, for the most part, Muslims?
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No, Muslims do need to acknowledge that terrorism is becoming a solely Muslim-only thing
 
Laila said:
Then go back and read my 8,000 posts.
I have always condemned radical Islam.
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You're sure as hell not doing so in this thread. But, that's ok. You only confirm everything I've been saying about Islam.

By your logic, we should have sat back and allowed the Communists dominate the world. There wouldn't have been a Vietnam, or Korea. Had we let Germany and Japan do their thing, there wouldn't have been WW2.
 
apdst said:
Ya'll are doing a very poor job of it.
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Just because I don't admit **** to Islamophobes or retards who despise my religion.

**** helping those who already hate my religion and give them more ammo by them using the words "Laila is a Muslim and she agrees with me ..."
I'd rather keep my mouth shut about the problems in my religion and failings of Muslims around people like you as opposed to the other 100 people on this board
 
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Ikari said:
Except for the IRA.
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Shhh, terrorism is a MUSLIM ONLY thing.

Didn't you get the memo. I mean, ignore the problems that is happening in Africa or Asia. Muslims are the only ones guilty of terrorism.
 
Africa pretty much is ignored.
 
apdst said:
When's the last time the IRA attacked an American target?
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So it's only terrorism if the target is American?

Gotcha.
 
apdst said:
When's the last time the IRA attacked an American target?
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We ain't ****ing with their ****, they ain't that pissed at us.
 
Laila said:
Just because I don't admit **** to Islamophobes or retards who despise my religion.

**** helping those who already hate my religion and give them more ammo by them using the words "Laila is a Muslim and she agrees with me ..."
I'd rather keep my mouth shut about the problems in my religion and failings of Muslims around people like you as opposed to the other 100 people on this board
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Oh, so I'm an Islamophobe, for stateting the obvious? Ok, got it! You just went one step further in proving my point.
 
Ikari said:
We ain't ****ing with their ****, they ain't that pissed at us.
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So, it's all our fault? If they would behave, we wouldn't have to get involved.
 
Laila said:
So it's only terrorism if the target is American?

Gotcha.
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Did I say that? I only pointed out that the IRA has never attacked the United States, or American targets.
 
danarhea said:
Oklahoma City certainly comes to mind.
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A former State Department anti-terrorism prober now claims that a missing suspect in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing is a former Iraqi soldier who later secured a job at Boston's Logan Airport, where two of the 9-11 hijackers boarded planes they later commandeered and slammed into the World Trade Center. "Larry Johnson, the former deputy director of the State Department's office on counterterrorism, told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly Tuesday that the paths of 9-11 hijackers Mohamed Atta, Marwan Al-Shehhi and Zacarias Moussaoui crossed on more than one occasion with that of John Doe No. 2, the name given to the man witnesses say helped Timothy McVeigh carry out the Oklahoma City bombing.

The FBI was so convinced of the importance of John Doe No. 2 that it even distributed police sketches in an effort to track him down.

"He was seen with Timothy McVeigh three days before the bombing, the morning of the bombing, and he was seen by one of the witnesses getting out of the Ryder truck after it pulled up in front of the Murrah building," the ex-State Department official explained.

Johnson, along with a growing contingent of independent probers, believes that John Doe No. 2 is actually Hussain Hashim Alhussaini, a former member of Iraq's elite Republican Guard.

"The thing that really concerns me relative to 9-11 [is that] when he left Oklahoma around 1996 and 1997, he went to work at Logan Airport in Boston," Johnson told O'Reilly. "We don't know where he is now."
NewsMax, May 7, 2002.
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Domestic Terrorism 101 - The Middle East Connection
The FBI refused to consider evidence showing Saudi terrorism mastermind Osama bin Laden assisted Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, Fox News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor" reported tonight.

Investigative journalist Jayna Davis, formerly of KFOR in Oklahoma City, told host Bill O'Reilly that she had gathered information showing that bin Laden funded the bombing conspiracy, that Nichols had terrorist ties in the Philippines, and that an Iraqi Republican Guard member accompanied McVeigh and Nichols on the day of the bombing.

When she tried to present her information, an FBI agent in Oklahoma City seemed ready to accept it - but refused after calling a superior in Denver, Davis said.

Why would the FBI refuse even to consider such evidence - or any evidence - in this top-priority case?

"Their reasons, their motivations, that's a matter for the Department of Justice and the former attorney general," Davis said.
March 20, 2001, NewsMax
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Domestic Terrorism 101 - The Middle East Connection
 
apdst said:
Oh, so I'm an Islamophobe, for stateting the obvious? Ok, got it! You just went one step further in proving my point.
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I think there are a few on here who's only sole aim seems to be bashing Islam or Muslims and on a good day. Get in with both.

Those people are the first who rush to a thread if the title includes 'Terrorist, Muslim, Islam, stoning"
And they are also the same people who's opinion on Islam is worth nothing and half the time doesn't even register in my mind.

Say whatever you want. I just will never agree with your "stating the obvious"
 
apdst said:
Did I say that? I only pointed out that the IRA has never attacked the United States, or American targets.
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So it only matters if the target is American.

Got it.
 
apdst said:
So, it's all our fault? If they would behave, we wouldn't have to get involved.
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I didn't say it was all our fault, did I? Can I pull out the ol' "You just went one step further in proving my point."? Point is, the West in general have monkeyed around in the region for decades. They got pissed at us for doing so. Does it excuse terrorism? No, not in the least. But if they ain't pissed at us for some reason, why would they launch terrorist attacks at us? On some base level for the propaganda used by the terrorists there has to be some large amount of underlying anger for it to work. Of course it's not all our fault, but we shouldn't presume that we live in a vacuum and our actions have no repercussions.
 
Why would we care, I mean in a personal security sense, about IRA bombers?? That's just goofy. Now if they start setting off bombs in Boston, well that's different now isn't it?
 
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