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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The same reason I am not offended by any religion that has had people commit terrorist acts in it's name. I understand the difference between the religion, and terrorists. It's a pretty easy difference to see, but some people blind themselves to it.
    So you believe Islam really is a religion of peace, Redress?

    Where did you learn that?

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you believe Islam really is a religion of peace, Redress?

    Where did you learn that?
    Why are you putting words in my mouth. I believe Islam is a religion, just like Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism and dozens of others. I believe that some Muslims are terrorists, just like every other religion has some who are scum. I believe in not judging all by a few.
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Well of course they're lumped together. What do you expect?

    Were there any Muslims marching through the streets to protest the London bombings? The Madrid bombings, and so on? Of course not.
    I didn't realize it was our duty to protest what others do of their own free will and in contradiction of our religious beliefs. And because these Muslims do not fulfill your obligation of protesting every action any Muslim ever commits, you lump them together with the most extreme of that group. I don't see Christians regularly protesting what the Klu Klux Klan does. Does that mean I am allowed to lump those Christians with the KKK? No, that would be fallacious reasoning and devoid of logic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I feel quite comfortable in saying that you have never taken to the streets to protest islamic terrorism. Never!
    Yeah! In your nine months here you really got a great understanding of me! In fact, I've participated in an Al-Maghrib Outreach Program that sent me to Ramallah to teach children about things that contradict true Islam (you know, those things you believe all Muslims actually commit).
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Instead you'll act as apologist, just as you're doing here, trying to explain some goofy story from the pedophile as though this is a Sunday school, or trying to define what a 'jihad' is. You're all like children, cowardly children at that.
    Well, when one is ignorant of the subject, and posts like he is ignorant of the subject, one may only assume the poster is purposely using his ignorance to debate honestly. Your understanding of Islam is most likely limited to a few hate sites who's only intent is to show Islam in a bad light. It's obvious you have never opened a Qur'an before or even read one in context. You'd realize that less than one percent of the Qur'an has to do with actual physical violence. But again, that is assuming you are willing to engage in an honest discussion in which ignorance does not guide your posts.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The left is also all in favor of spitting on our troops, hating America, and using the constitution as toilet paper. If you are going to use mindless bashing with zero facts, you might as well get all of them in there, it's not like it will make your post look any more foolish.
    A little ric sarcasm

    Holy Baloney.... everyone knows that Christians are the evil behind all that's bad in the world and that if they were all beheaded, gassed, made to convert to Islam, became Wiccans, etc. the world would be at peace.

    That Jesus guy was a racist hater and Christianity is the moral equivalent of Nazism (not that Nazis were bad within their morally relevant, self-actualized world view that we can't judge).

    Religion is absolutely horrible and must be totally eliminated, except for Islam because its a religion of peace that we can't judge because it is morally equivalent to social progressivism and Wicca because its kewl and all and Santaria because opressed people follow it and all so sharia law trumps evil Judeo-Christian, Greco-Roman dead white oppressor hater male 'rule of law' that is the basis of this racist, genderist hater society that oppresses everyone because genital mutilation, oppression of women and non-Christian religious supremicists are morally better than "Amerikkka" and Bush = Hitler.

    Right, Redress?....lmao

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    A little ric sarcasm

    Holy Baloney.... everyone knows that Christians are the evil behind all that's bad in the world and that if they were all beheaded, gassed, made to convert to Islam, became Wiccans, etc. the world would be at peace.

    That Jesus guy was a racist hater and Christianity is the moral equivalent of Nazism (not that Nazis were bad within their morally relevant, self-actualized world view that we can't judge).

    Religion is absolutely horrible and must be totally eliminated, except for Islam because its a religion of peace that we can't judge because it is morally equivalent to social progressivism and Wicca because its kewl and all and Santaria because opressed people follow it and all so sharia law trumps evil Judeo-Christian, Greco-Roman dead white oppressor hater male 'rule of law' that is the basis of this racist, genderist hater society that oppresses everyone because genital mutilation, oppression of women and non-Christian religious supremicists are morally better than "Amerikkka" and Bush = Hitler.

    Right, Redress?....lmao
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    To even begin that you would have to understand what jihad really is. It is not synonymous with physical violence. Fighting is only permitted in Islam as self-defense, when one is being persecuted for being a Muslim (like the early Muslims were persecuted by the Quraish). What constitutes radicalism? Deviating from this norm and using aggressive fighting.

    Here is an example of Jihad by striving in goodness for God's cause:

    Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

    A man came to the Prophet asking his permission to take part in Jihad. The Prophet asked him, "Are your parents alive?" He replied in the affirmative. The Prophet said to him, "Then exert yourself in their service."
    - Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 248

    A common misconception is that Muslims are commanded to spread Islam with a "convert or die" mentality. This is false, and is easily refuted by this hadith:

    It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Masa that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) deputed any of his Companions on a mission, he would say: Give tidings (to the people) ; do not create (in their minds) aversion (towards religion) ; show them leniency and do not be hard upon them. - Sahih Muslim Book 019, Number 4297
    Degreez, the *Muslim*

    The purpose of terrorism is to create terror, and through terror, achieve political aims, right?

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Do you enjoy talking to yourself?
    The bottom line is that Christians in America don't make the murder of other people a part of their worship. If they did there would be bloodshed of an unimaginable level in this country that would make Iraq look like a McDonald's playground on a sunny Saturday afternoon.

    Do you agree?

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The bottom line is that Christians in America don't make the murder of other people a part of their worship.
    Uh ... neither do Muslims.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    The bottom line is that Christians in America don't make the murder of other people a part of their worship. If they did there would be bloodshed of an unimaginable level in this country that would make Iraq look like a McDonald's playground on a sunny Saturday afternoon.

    Do you agree?
    I'm sorry, show me where Muslims in America make murder their bottom line and we'll agree.

    OH WAIT!

    They don't.

    Have a nice day.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Uh ... neither do Muslims.
    Therein lies the difference between a TN and someone like Osama Bin Laden or Al Sadr....they are lauded as heros in mosques across the middle east. They preach violence and terrorism as an element of their faith and indeed as a holy calling.

    You can find no such systematic support for terrorists among Evangelicals in America. In fact, you find disdain and contempt for even asking the question.

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