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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by GayLibertarian View Post
    How about Muslims becoming *TOLERANT* of homosexuals?
    Alot of Christains aren't...

    Why not Muslims, Muslim organizations, Imams and Islamic centers around the nation step up and stop the *persecution* of gays and lesbians?
    Do they persecute them in YOUR country? No they don't.

    Why don't Muslims protest in front of the Saudi embassy, the U.N. and other human right's abusers and *demand* that GLBT persecution end?
    Why don't Christains, Jews and Bhuddists do that too?

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by damianvincent View Post
    The Ground Zero Mosque isn't an issue of freedom of Religion, no one is saying no Mosque's can be built in New York, what I think the 9/11 families are saying is that it's an incredibly insensitive, to put it lightly, spot to build this Mosque. If I'm not mistaking, the developer of this Mosque has sought funding from terrorist organizations like Hamas, for the center, blames 9/11 on America. I can certainly sympathize with the families concerns.
    You are mistaken.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There are millions of Muslims right here in the United States, and guess what else? They are American citizens, who love this country, hate terrorism, and yes, some of them even fight and die for this country, by joining the military. This ad speaks for them, and puts the spotlight back on those who hate them for no other reason than their religion. Jim Crow didn't die in America. It merely chose another group of people as its target.

    Yes, America is a nation founded by Christians, but our forefathers had something to say about tolerance of other religions:



    Because someone has chosen Islam as a religion does not make him a terrorist, any more than someone choosing Christianity does. Do we blame Christianity for the Mississippi Burning episode of American history, or the bombing in Oklahoma City? No, we don't. We blame assholes. By the same token, we cannot judge those whose only crime is to practice their religion, especially those who practice American patriotism at the same time. It was assholes who hit the World Trade Center, not Muslims who live here in America as peaceful citizens.

    In Iran, self righteous Mullahs are in the process of convicting and putting to death people who practice the Baha'i' religion. Let us not be Mullahs today, but give Muslim Americans the same respect we give to all other Americans. After all, they are Americans too. And when we end our lives, and stand before our maker, we can be comfortable in the fact that we did not live our lives as the Mullahs did, condemning innocent people for the acts of assholes, for that would make us assholes ourselves, and undeserving of any reward in the afterlife. Jesus spoke of love, not hatred. It's time that some of us practiced what we preach.

    Article is here.
    I hear Muslims speaking out against the methodology, but I don't hear Muslims speaking out against the ideology. Why is that?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    You are mistaken.
    You can prove that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I hear Muslims speaking out against the methodology, but I don't hear Muslims speaking out against the ideology. Why is that?
    More importantly, why does the answer to your question matter?
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    More importantly, why does the answer to your question matter?
    Why does it matter that Muslims speak out against the methodology and not the ideology? Really?

    Are you defending the ideology, or the methodology?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    jetboogieman, why dont you answer the question?

    WHY is Islam intollerant of homosexuality?
    "Sodomy is one of the most gruesome and detested crimes, the punishment for which is also one of the harshest penalties, it is the capital punishment"
    -Imam Mukhtar K. Ahmed Al-Mesalati, author of the "QURAN And Same-Sex Behavior", c. 2009

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by GayLibertarian View Post
    jetboogieman, why dont you answer the question?

    WHY is Islam intollerant of homosexuality?
    Because many of them are incredibly socially conservative...

    Many Christains are also intolerant of homosexuals, or have you been living under a rock?

    Not supporting what happens to gays in the ME... it's irreprehensible.

    And the fact of the matter is. Do Muslims in America persecute you?

    I believe they don't.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Because many of them are incredibly socially conservative...

    Many Christains are also intolerant of homosexuals, or have you been living under a rock?

    Not supporting what happens to gays in the ME... it's irreprehensible.

    And the fact of the matter is. Do Muslims in America persecute you?

    I believe they don't.
    Not yet, anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why does it matter that Muslims speak out against the methodology and not the ideology? Really?

    Are you defending the ideology, or the methodology?
    I'm saying the ideology is irrelevant and they've already rebuffed the methodology....so your point would seem to be what we call a "moot"
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