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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Are you saying, Khayembii, that the "Religion of Peace" website contains some factual errors?
    I'm saying that the entire premise behind the website is a lie.
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I'm saying that the entire premise behind the website is a lie.
    Would you please explain the premise and the lie?

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Right. And a Nazi could equally say that they cannot speak for other Nazis, only for themselves. But in fact if you support Nazis, Fascists, Racists, or any of these type of groups, then you'll be identified with them. Otherwise they should be denounced.
    That's absolutely ridiculous on about twenty different levels. I can defend the rights of Nazis to speak as they wish and not be a Nazi myself. You dont have to be a member of a group to defend their right to speak.

    I believe the Voltaire quote is "I disagree with everything you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it." I believe in free speech and if I support free speech only for groups I agree with, I would be a hypocrite.
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    That's absolutely ridiculous on about twenty different levels. I can defend the rights of Nazis to speak as they wish and not be a Nazi myself. You dont have to be a member of a group to defend their right to speak.

    I believe the Voltaire quote is "I disagree with everything you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it." I believe in free speech and if I support free speech only for groups I agree with, I would be a hypocrite.
    No one is speaking put against free speech here, Hoplite, but if you are a member of the Nazi Party, defending Nazis, and trying to downplay what Nazis do, then you will be judged accordingly.

    I am all for free speech, in fact, and I use it to speak out against what I feel is wrong. I'm particularly concerned about those who refuse to speak out for fear of 'sensitivity', about offending Muslims groups for example.

    Militant Musims have no hesitation in criticizing "bigoted" Americans, or anyone living in the democracies who dares protest against their actions, and it would seem only fair to be allowed to respond on a similar level.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    One guy; out of how many?
    Well, if you look at church burnings, the work of the klan and other such groups over the decades, we can come up with more than on guy. Just saying.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Well, if you look at church burnings, the work of the klan and other such groups over the decades, we can come up with more than on guy. Just saying.
    If there were church burnings and racism groups creating havoc around the world today, Boo Radley, then we should have the courage to speak out against it. The thing is though, the KKK are not a force and there aren't any Church burnings, apart from those being carried out by Muslims gangs.

    Historically we can look at many sins by every people and nation, but we're having to deal with our world today, and what we will leave behind us.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    apart from those being carried out by Muslims gangs.
    Where are muslims burning churches in the US?

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Where are muslims burning churches in the US?
    Islam is International, does it have to be in the US alone?


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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Islam is International, does it have to be in the US alone?


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    Well what we're talking about here is Muslim Americans, and how they're being unfairly judged based on the actions of extremist assholes that aren't from America.

    Try to follow along.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Where are muslims burning churches in the US?
    I didn't say that they were doing it in the US.

    Do you know anything at all about international Islamic terrorism?

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