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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

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    Nope, 911 was wrong, but let me say this a third time, since you are refusing to read it and debate it honestly - There are hundreds of 911 families who believe that putting the Islamic Cultural Center where it is is the right thing to do.
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Again with the PC retort? You hands gotta come up with some better than that. I've been hearing that crap since September 12th, 2001.
    What's PC about pointing out that you have your mind made up and nothing any of us do, short of blunt force trauma, will change it?

    I've made this point before, about Bush no less, that no one is under any obligation at all to answer or dispel the machinations of total idiots that happen to be thrown their way. Taking a refusal to deal with such moronic behavior as a sign of something OTHER than actually caring how one's time is spent falls under the category of confirmation bias; you hear what you want to hear, to hell with anyone who says different.

    But, white folks, especially southerners fall under a different standard? That's what I thought.
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    What's PC about pointing out that you have your mind made up and nothing any of us do, short of blunt force trauma, will change it?

    I've made this point before, about Bush no less, that no one is under any obligation at all to answer or dispel the machinations of total idiots that happen to be thrown their way. Taking a refusal to deal with such moronic behavior as a sign of something OTHER than actually caring how one's time is spent falls under the category of confirmation bias; you hear what you want to hear, to hell with anyone who says different.



    Laila proved my point. At no time did she denounce the ideology, or the motivations of the Islamic terrorists.


    No, they dont.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post

    But that doesn't mean I do not blame the killing of innocents on those who commit the act. They are responsible and each will be judged individually by Allah for their actions.


    Clearly you must have missed it.
    Hmmm....
    judged individually by Allah for their actions
    There have been Muslims who have denounced terrorist acts, they have all hedged their bets. Depending on WHO is being attacked, they say it is ok. That opinion is supported by, rather than refuted by their source documents, i.e. the Koran. A further difference is support among the populace. As long as Islamic terrorists limit their attacks to "INFIDELS", they have almost universal support and aid among your Islamic community. Only when they start hitting other Muslims (Sunni killing Sunni, Shi'a killing Shi'a) do they lose that community support.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Laila proved my point. At no time did she denounce the ideology, or the motivations of the Islamic terrorists.
    Laila is ONE PERSON. She cant possibly speak for every Muslim on the planet. And you are still trying to inject importance into something that isnt to support your own point of view.

    How many times do I have to repeat myself? You have a confirmation bias.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Hmmm....

    There have been Muslims who have denounced terrorist acts, they have all hedged their bets. Depending on WHO is being attacked, they say it is ok. That opinion is supported by, rather than refuted by their source documents, i.e. the Koran. A further difference is support among the populace. As long as Islamic terrorists limit their attacks to "INFIDELS", they have almost universal support and aid among your Islamic community. Only when they start hitting other Muslims (Sunni killing Sunni, Shi'a killing Shi'a) do they lose that community support.
    Muslims have been victims of terrorism more than "Infidels" and always will be. It is Muslims who are on the frontline of Islamic extremists.

    And killing of innocents is forbidden. It is one of the few acts that Allah will not forgive a Muslim for doing.
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Laila proved my point.
    @ trying to use me as a representative of 1.2billion people.

    I speak only for myself. Not Muslims.


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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Muslims have been victims of terrorism more than "Infidels" and always will be. It is Muslims who are on the frontline of Islamic extremists.

    And killing of innocents is forbidden. It is one of the few acts that Allah will not forgive a Muslim for doing.
    That's simply untrue. Muslims killing other Muslims, and infidels, is nothing new. It began with Mohammad, was and is encouraged by him, and continues today.

    They'll murder their sons, sisters, brothers, daughters and wives, strangers, infidels, and anyone else who they feel might be obstructing their path to eternal righteousness.

    I can see why those who are born into Islam and have little knowledge of the outside world might fall for this nonsense but it's always a bit of a shock to see otherwise rational people falling for this craziness.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    @ trying to use me as a representative of 1.2billion people.

    I speak only for myself. Not Muslims.
    Right. And a Nazi could equally say that they cannot speak for other Nazis, only for themselves. But in fact if you support Nazis, Fascists, Racists, or any of these type of groups, then you'll be identified with them. Otherwise they should be denounced.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post

    But that doesn't mean I do not blame the killing of innocents on those who commit the act. They are responsible and each will be judged individually by Allah for their actions.


    Clearly you must have missed it.
    But........Do you consider those killed as INNOCENTS or in your eyes are they guilty of something worth killing them for?
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