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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

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    Oklahoma City certainly comes to mind.

    A former State Department anti-terrorism prober now claims that a missing suspect in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing is a former Iraqi soldier who later secured a job at Boston's Logan Airport, where two of the 9-11 hijackers boarded planes they later commandeered and slammed into the World Trade Center. "Larry Johnson, the former deputy director of the State Department's office on counterterrorism, told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly Tuesday that the paths of 9-11 hijackers Mohamed Atta, Marwan Al-Shehhi and Zacarias Moussaoui crossed on more than one occasion with that of John Doe No. 2, the name given to the man witnesses say helped Timothy McVeigh carry out the Oklahoma City bombing.

    The FBI was so convinced of the importance of John Doe No. 2 that it even distributed police sketches in an effort to track him down.

    "He was seen with Timothy McVeigh three days before the bombing, the morning of the bombing, and he was seen by one of the witnesses getting out of the Ryder truck after it pulled up in front of the Murrah building," the ex-State Department official explained.

    Johnson, along with a growing contingent of independent probers, believes that John Doe No. 2 is actually Hussain Hashim Alhussaini, a former member of Iraq's elite Republican Guard.

    "The thing that really concerns me relative to 9-11 [is that] when he left Oklahoma around 1996 and 1997, he went to work at Logan Airport in Boston," Johnson told O'Reilly. "We don't know where he is now."
    NewsMax, May 7, 2002.
    Domestic Terrorism 101 - The Middle East Connection
    The FBI refused to consider evidence showing Saudi terrorism mastermind Osama bin Laden assisted Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, Fox News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor" reported tonight.

    Investigative journalist Jayna Davis, formerly of KFOR in Oklahoma City, told host Bill O'Reilly that she had gathered information showing that bin Laden funded the bombing conspiracy, that Nichols had terrorist ties in the Philippines, and that an Iraqi Republican Guard member accompanied McVeigh and Nichols on the day of the bombing.

    When she tried to present her information, an FBI agent in Oklahoma City seemed ready to accept it - but refused after calling a superior in Denver, Davis said.

    Why would the FBI refuse even to consider such evidence - or any evidence - in this top-priority case?

    "Their reasons, their motivations, that's a matter for the Department of Justice and the former attorney general," Davis said.
    March 20, 2001, NewsMax
    Domestic Terrorism 101 - The Middle East Connection
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, so I'm an Islamophobe, for stateting the obvious? Ok, got it! You just went one step further in proving my point.
    I think there are a few on here who's only sole aim seems to be bashing Islam or Muslims and on a good day. Get in with both.

    Those people are the first who rush to a thread if the title includes 'Terrorist, Muslim, Islam, stoning"
    And they are also the same people who's opinion on Islam is worth nothing and half the time doesn't even register in my mind.

    Say whatever you want. I just will never agree with your "stating the obvious"


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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Did I say that? I only pointed out that the IRA has never attacked the United States, or American targets.
    So it only matters if the target is American.

    Got it.


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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, it's all our fault? If they would behave, we wouldn't have to get involved.
    I didn't say it was all our fault, did I? Can I pull out the ol' "You just went one step further in proving my point."? Point is, the West in general have monkeyed around in the region for decades. They got pissed at us for doing so. Does it excuse terrorism? No, not in the least. But if they ain't pissed at us for some reason, why would they launch terrorist attacks at us? On some base level for the propaganda used by the terrorists there has to be some large amount of underlying anger for it to work. Of course it's not all our fault, but we shouldn't presume that we live in a vacuum and our actions have no repercussions.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Why would we care, I mean in a personal security sense, about IRA bombers?? That's just goofy. Now if they start setting off bombs in Boston, well that's different now isn't it?
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I think there are a few on here who's only sole aim seems to be bashing Islam or Muslims and on a good day. Get in with both.

    Those people are the first who rush to a thread if the title includes 'Terrorist, Muslim, Islam, stoning"
    And they are also the same people who's opinion on Islam is worth nothing and half the time doesn't even register in my mind.

    Say whatever you want. I just will never agree with your "stating the obvious"
    So, now you're just a victim of all us mean 'ole racists?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Why would we care, I mean in a personal security sense, about IRA bombers?? That's just goofy. Now if they start setting off bombs in Boston, well that's different now isn't it?
    Like those damned Mooninites!
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, now you're just a victim of all us mean 'ole racists?
    You don't have the balls to be racist.

    But stupid. Yes, that you are.


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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I didn't say it was all our fault, did I? Can I pull out the ol' "You just went one step further in proving my point."? Point is, the West in general have monkeyed around in the region for decades. They got pissed at us for doing so. Does it excuse terrorism? No, not in the least. But if they ain't pissed at us for some reason, why would they launch terrorist attacks at us? On some base level for the propaganda used by the terrorists there has to be some large amount of underlying anger for it to work. Of course it's not all our fault, but we shouldn't presume that we live in a vacuum and our actions have no repercussions.
    That's just a long winded way of apologizing for the terrorists. IOW, "if we hadn't been involved in Muslim countries, they wouldn't be pissed at us". See the naivety of your comments?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

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    So, now you're just a victim of all us mean 'ole racists?
    Instead, the most powerful Islamic organizations — often financed by oil money from the Middle East — incessantly play the victim card. Khan tells ABC’s Christiane Amanpour that in America, it’s “beyond Islamophobia. It’s hate of Muslims.”

    Time encourages this grievance mentality by asserting that “to be a Muslim in America now is to endure slings and arrows against your faith ... some of the country’s most powerful mainstream religious and political leaders unthinkingly (or worse, deliberately) conflate Islam with terrorism and savagery.”

    No, what they conflate with terrorism and savagery are al-Qaeda, the Taliban, Hezbollah, Hamas, Lashkar-e-Taiba, al-Shabaab, Abu Sayyef, Fatah Al-Islam, the Muslim Brotherhood and dozens of other groups that justify their terrorism and savagery based on their interpretation of Islamic doctrine.

    Many religious and political leaders would like to hear more of their Muslim neighbors say plainly: “Not in my name! Not in the name of my religion!” They are distressed when they learn — not through the mainstream media — that Rauf has said instead: “The United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda.”

    He said that when he was still answering questions. In recent weeks, he has been “unavailable.” Time does not criticize him as they would any non-Muslim who declined comment for a cover story. Instead, Time excuses him, saying he seems to have been “stunned into paralysis” by the unfairness of it all.
    Violent Muslims getting free pass from mainstream media - The Times Herald Opinion: Norristown, PA and Montgomery County (timesherald.com)
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