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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's why Muslim suicide bombers are screaming, "allah akbar", on their way to murdering innocent civilians?
    THAT is your only evidence that Islam is the sole cause of terrorism?


    Give me something better


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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I beg to differ.
    Muslims do try and stop the causes of terrorism and motivates it.
    We wanted a withdrawal from Iraq, Afghanistan, a solution for Palestine. Pakistan to control its borders .... if those aren't the reasons behind terrorism, then nothing is.

    Muslims said to US and the West that entering Iraq etc. will have a blow back and radicalise generations. Did they listen? Noooo.
    I seem to remember plenty of terrorism prior to Iraq and Afghanistan.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A clear indication that you blame terrorism on everyone, except the terrorists. You couldn't have proven my point, any better. Thank you!!
    Your attempts at twisting my words is highly amusing but fails.

    You see, I am holding individuals responsible for their actions and those terrorists are to blame for what they do.


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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I seem to remember plenty of terrorism prior to Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Oh yes, I also mentioned Palestine which is still a big issue for some and Chechnya which is what one of the 7/7 bombers focused on.
    Iraq was not the be all and end all for terrorism but one is blind if they try and deny it did not increase radicals.


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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Your attempts at twisting my words is highly amusing but fails.

    You see, I am holding individuals responsible for their actions and those terrorists are to blame for what they do.
    I'm not twisting anything. You said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    We wanted a withdrawal from Iraq, Afghanistan, a solution for Palestine. Pakistan to control its borders .... if those aren't the reasons behind terrorism, then nothing is.

    Muslims said to US and the West that entering Iraq etc. will have a blow back and radicalise generations. Did they listen? Noooo.
    Obviously, you support the motivations behind the terrorism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Oh yes, I also mentioned Palestine which is still a big issue for some and Chechnya which is what one of the 7/7 bombers focused on.
    Iraq was not the be all and end all for terrorism but one is blind if they try and deny it did not increase radicals.
    You do it again, here. It's not the fault of the Islamists. Huh? According to you, it's because of what everyone else does.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not twisting anything. You said:

    Obviously, you support the motivations behind the terrorism.
    So I'm a terrorist because I said 'we'?

    You said Muslims do not denounce causes/reasons. I said we (as in many Muslims) wanted a withdrawal from Iraq etc ... because we were and still are fully aware of the impact the invasions has had on many Muslims. It has turned alot of them to extremism and/or radicals

    But that doesn't mean I do not blame the killing of innocents on those who commit the act. They are responsible and each will be judged individually by Allah for their actions.


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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You do it again, here. It's not the fault of the Islamists. Huh? According to you, it's because of what everyone else does.
    I have not said Islamists are not responsible for their actions.

    Continue trying to lie


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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Oh yes, I also mentioned Palestine which is still a big issue for some and Chechnya which is what one of the 7/7 bombers focused on.
    Iraq was not the be all and end all for terrorism but one is blind if they try and deny it did not increase radicals.
    My point is that there are causes of terrorism that go beyond the political situations in Iraq/Afghanistan/Palestine/Chechnya/anywhere else.

    Moreover, the fact that people are disgruntled about a political situation does not excuse or really provide a "cause" for terrorism. I might be furious about Chirac's crackdown on the Roma, but if I blew myself up in Paris, it would be foolish to say that French politics were the "cause" of my actions. US policy in Israel might have been an excuse for Saudi Arabians to attack the US, but it's not really a "cause."
    Last edited by RightinNYC; 08-31-10 at 05:21 PM.
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    Re: U.S. Muslims launch ad to fight 'fear-mongering'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I seem to remember plenty of terrorism prior to Iraq and Afghanistan.
    I remember when Islamic terrorism was motivated by no other reason than US support of Israel. Remember the American sailor that was executed in Beirut?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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