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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Show me where they said that...
    The point that American people are acting on hate and bigotry is very clear - not enoguh to make a gross generalization if one was being made, but take a look at the cluster**** that is SodaHead.com to see what I mean.
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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    The point that American people are acting on hate and bigotry is very clear - not enoguh to make a gross generalization if one was being made, but take a look at the cluster**** that is SodaHead.com to see what I mean.
    And that will only grow, Travelsonic, in response to Islamic hate and bigotry taking place all over the world. That's also happening in Western Europe as well.

    Muslims had better draw in their horns pretty quickly or there is bound to be violence. Muslims commit violence everywhere, or threaten it, but I doubt they could compare with what the democracies could do if the Muslims push too far.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Which site are you referring to now?


    No, 1.6 billion did not attack NYC city on 9/11. We all know that. Just as all Britons didn't bomb Dresden or all Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. And the Americans are not patting themselves on the back for this, I am patting them on the back for this. I'm Canadian. But why shouldn't Americans feel proud of themselves. You're British and a BBC fan, right?? And why this talk of Christians? Are you deliberately muddying the waters or are you into moral equivalence? Have Christians been putting bombs on transportation systems in Europe? The idea is ludicrous and we should just stick to the facts.




    Well it's pretty stupid to relate Christians to the Klan all right but we do know that many Muslims support terrorism, Sharia law and so on. The same cannot be said of Christians.



    Poll: Most Say "Ground Zero Mosque" Is Inappropriate - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    Why shouldn't Americans be angry at Muslims for creating terror in the democracies and killing Innocent people everywhere? If it were Germans, Koreans, or Brazilians, wouldn't you get a little concerned? It seems you really bought into the innocent Muslim theory, despite your lack of evidence.

    After 10 years of good will and the refusal to stereotype, Americans are starting to fight back at this very disrespectful act in NYC. And unless Muslims draw in, and don't overplay their hand, it will get worse. The soft approach has not worked in Europe and we're quite aware that it won't work here.

    Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK - Telegraph
    The center is not being built on ground zero. That's just a fact.

    And your 71% number was for pissing them off and not a the lesser claim of thinking it was inappropriate. You can think it inappropriate, as wrong as that is, and not be pissed off.

    And the British are a country. You can blame a country. You cannot blame all in a religion. Britain bombed Dreseden. The Muslim faith did not commit the crime of 9/11. Al Qaeda did. Like many, you mix up the order in your stereotyping. Brittian the country is the larger grouping, and individual members the smaller grouping. Al Qaeda is the smaller grouping, and the Muslim religiion the larger grouping. All British citizens are part of the British country, even those who disagree with with the government, and even with that, not all are responsibile.

    Now look at the foolishness with the center. Al Qaeda is the smaller group. Not only do not all Muslims agree with al Qaeda, but most are not even members of that smaller group, thus having no connection at all. Nothing like citizens of a country have. It is sheer ignorant to pretend the two examples are alike.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    The center is not being built on ground zero. That's just a fact.
    If you are referring to the WTC as 'ground zero, that is true, but it is being built on a site that was damaged and rendered unusable after the attack. It is simply to close to where 3,000 people died at Muslims hands.
    And your 71% number was for pissing them off and not a the lesser claim of thinking it was inappropriate. You can think it inappropriate, as wrong as that is, and not be pissed off.
    Oh, i think it's safe to say that a large number are pissed off but that question wasn't included in the survey. "Inappropriate" though suggests strongly that the Muslims in charge should not go through with this idea. If the idea was to build harmony, as originally claimed, why would they want to upset 71% of the American population? Why is this mosque so important to them when they have over 100 mosques already in NYC? Any ideas?
    And the British are a country. You can blame a country. You cannot blame all in a religion.
    Certainly you can. Residents of a country may have quite different belief systems but what sets religions apart is that they all share the same belief system. Certainly there might be differences of opinion within that system, but the fundamental belief is the same, and differs greatly from other religions..

    Britain bombed Dreseden.The Muslim faith did not commit the crime of 9/11. Al Qaeda did.
    No, the RAF bombed Dresden, not the British people, but all of Britain was held responsible. Likewise, when Al Qaeda bombed NYC, or London, or Madrid, their linkage is Islam and thus, using your example, all Muslims can all be held responsible. It might be different if Muslims were taking to the streets in great numbers, protesting these atrocities against human life, but they are not. Instead they have people like yourself who are protesting in their name, and offering up excuses that they might never make for themselves.

    As well, of course you'll continue to blame the victims, insisting that the democracies, and the victims of terrorism, suffer in silence rather than respond.

    Like many, you mix up the order in your stereotyping. Brittian the country is the larger grouping, and individual members the smaller grouping,
    And how long will these groupings remain static? Do you understand demographics? Muslims and their leaders certainly do. Many have four wives and great numbers of children while many women in the western democracies are aborting their babies. How long do you think this trend can continue without huge changes being made? The answer is about 60 years.

    Al Qaeda is the smaller grouping, and the Muslim religiion the larger grouping.
    And do you feel these numbers will remain the same over the next 10, 20 or 50 years? If just one percent of British Muslims support terrorism, and that seems to be the case, that is about 300,000 terrorist supporter there. These can be very violent people. Do you feel that any 'moderate Muslim is willing to stand up against them? The west is frightened of upsetting Islamic terrorism over cartoons, burning the koran, etc, and run scared. Why should regular Muslims challenge them if we remain afraid?



    All British citizens are part of the British country, even those who disagree with with the government, and even with that, not all are responsibile.

    Now look at the foolishness with the center. Al Qaeda is the smaller group. Not only do not all Muslims agree with al Qaeda, but most are not even members of that smaller group, thus having no connection at all. Nothing like citizens of a country have. It is sheer ignorant to pretend the two examples are alike.
    You know that Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization that will do whatever they can to frighten people into behaving a certain way, usually through the indiscriminate killings of innocent people. But is it too large a jump to think these same people don't have a propaganda wing? A political wing? Do you really believe they are that backward that they couldn't operate on more than one level?

    It seems I have more confidence in the intelligence of these people that you do. As usual it's the Left who fall first for the propaganda and that there is nothing to see here but a few crazy people who are the cause of the problem, that everyone else wants to live in peace and harmony. As well, they swallow whole the idea that is the leaders of the democracies who are the villains whenever their is a response to militant Islam, never the perpetrators.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is simply to close to where 3,000 people died at Muslims hands.
    Wait, isn't that the TOTAL death toll on 9-11, INCLUDING The numbers who died in Flight 93, and Flight 77 which were nowhere near the twin towers?
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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Wait, isn't that the TOTAL death toll on 9-11, INCLUDING The numbers who died in Flight 93, and Flight 77 which were nowhere near the twin towers?
    What is your point, Travelsonic? If it was only 2,000 or 2,500 it wouldn't matter?

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If you are referring to the WTC as 'ground zero, that is true, but it is being built on a site that was damaged and rendered unusable after the attack. It is simply to close to where 3,000 people died at Muslims hands.
    I bet a few of those dead were Muslim.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I bet a few of those dead were Muslim.
    Some were...

    But silly facts Winston, have no place in Grants World.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Some were...

    But silly facts Winston, have no place in Grants World.
    Silly facts they just get in the way of the fiction.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I bet a few of those dead were Muslim.
    Certainly. There are Muslims are murdering each other as well as innocents. It's madness.

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