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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Who said anything about white people?
    Now you've gone and done it - you've interrupted a perfectly good spittle spewing frothing at the mouth rant with pesky facts. That just won't do, Missy.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    I agree with you 100%, but could you imagine what people would start saying if a group of Muslims in Tennessee started arming themselves?
    Why shouldn't they? The 2nd amendment applies to muslims-Americans, too.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Dude, until we know who did it, this sort of talk is uncalled for, and over the top.
    Why? I bet there are many things which would get you to speak of that manner. It is entirely possible this was a terrorist act. In fact, given the conditions of the country currently, I would say pretty likely. Regardless, it is to be investigated, hopefully those who were responsible will be found and brought before the courts.
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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    I don't like to make assumptions. Remember all of the assumptions that were made about the census worker in tennessee? You just never know in cases like this...could have been a local arsonist without ideological views, is most likely a whackadoo with zero formal ties to any political group.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, this is similar to something that happened in Texas back in the 1960's. A black man was chained, weighted down, and then thrown into a lake. When those who did it were caught they said "We didn't do it. It's just like a nigger. Steal more chains than they can swim with". Your post, seeking to deny the obvious, reminded me of that story.
    And yet, Stephen Ayers was a hero to your ilk.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by TennesseeRain View Post
    Now you've gone and done it - you've interrupted a perfectly good spittle spewing frothing at the mouth rant with pesky facts. That just won't do, Missy.
    Talk to Dan, he's the one ranting about the 1960's church burnings.
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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why? I bet there are many things which would get you to speak of that manner. It is entirely possible this was a terrorist act. In fact, given the conditions of the country currently, I would say pretty likely. Regardless, it is to be investigated, hopefully those who were responsible will be found and brought before the courts.
    It's also true that people rush to assume it was anti-islamic bigotry, and the over the top "This reminds me of the 1960's church burnings" crap is uncalled for. IF IT IS some loon, then it's a lemantable act of hate, glad no one died. Now, if this starts happening in multiple places, THEN you an start making comparisons.
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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    I'll play Devil's Advocate for just a moment...

    There are a 1,000 ways a fire could have broke out at this construction site. Some plausable reasons:

    Short circuit in wiring.

    Someone left a welding torch on.

    People toss a smoldering cigerette near rags soaked in flamable chemicals.

    Or from the article, "Gas was poured over the equipment to start the fire."

    Now, who could have done this and why?

    Well, the arsonist could have been attempting to collect insurance money, except construction hadn't even begun at the site yet. The construction crew had just broke ground and begun digging days ago. The only thing that was set ablaze was construction equipment which may have been leased or could have been on loan by someone with a kind heart and just wanted to help.

    What else do we know about this site?

    According to news reports, this site has also been in the public spotlight recently along w/the NYC community center project near Ground Zero. Both projects have come under heavy public outrage. While there apparently have been small acts of vandalism (presumably at the site since the article clearly illustrates there is a very strong voice of opposition to the construction of the Islamic Community Center planned to be built there), a spokesman for site said, "We unfortunately did not experience hostilities for the 30 years we've been here and have only seen the hostility since approval of the site plan for the new center".

    From the article, people torn down the sign that was placed on the construction grounds depicting it as the future site of the ICC. Protesters were quoted as saying, "they don't want them [Muslims] here," for fear the mosque would be, "...turned into a terrorist training ground for Muslim militants bent on overthrowing the U.S. government".

    Thirty years of non-violence, then all of a sudden WHAM!!!

    Is it possible that someone took their rage out at the site and this is exactly as it appears to be - a hate crime? What possible motive would there be to burning a back-hoe?
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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Why shouldn't they? The 2nd amendment applies to muslims-Americans, too.
    Let's see, the protesters of the mosque are saying that they're afraid that the new building is going to be a training ground for terrorists bent on overthrowing America. Then the Muslims who will go to this mosque begin defending their ground and stockpiling arms.

    What do you think the protesters of this mosque would say?

    Let's be honest here. It would likely only fuel greater protests. It wouldn't win over those who are on the fence or neutral about the mosque. And I can totally see people saying that they set it themselves so they could justify arming themselves.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's also true that people rush to assume it was anti-islamic bigotry, and the over the top "This reminds me of the 1960's church burnings" crap is uncalled for. IF IT IS some loon, then it's a lemantable act of hate, glad no one died. Now, if this starts happening in multiple places, THEN you an start making comparisons.
    It's funny how some people aren't willing to suspend judgment that building an Islamic community center a couple blocks from ground zero is a sign of radical Islam encroaching on America, but they demand that people suspend judgment that arson on a mosque in a community that has become polarized against Islam is an act of terror against Muslims.

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