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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Religon has always been an iissue of tension in the US and countless other countries. . .as well as around the world. Especially this particular religion - it doesn't exactly coax out peace and tranquility.
    No, it's racial. There are white Muslims all over the U.S... they don't get attacked. Even Sikhs get attacked more, just because they wear turbans and people are ignorant.

    Don't blame Islam. Blame the media. Most Muslims are just living their lives in peace like any other American. It doesn't give anyone the right to go light fire to a place of worship. All of the media should be held accountable. There is nothing but racist, hateful propaganda being spun on it.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    It's quite sickening that there are those here that would attempt, of all things, to blame Muslims for this arson.

    The new Jim Crow indeed.
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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It's quite sickening that there are those here that would attempt, of all things, to blame Muslims for this arson.

    The new Jim Crow indeed.
    It's worse that people would make a conclusion with no evidence other then someone started a fire at the construction site.
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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Or maybe someone involved in the project was looking to reap the insurance reward for the "fire".

    Which is another reason for arson, but no no you tolerance folks, with you it's all about those DAMNED BIGOTED SOUTHERNERS!!
    Vicchio, the first thought most normal folks have is: "Thank God, no one was hurt."

    Speculating about 'Jewish (or Muslim) lightening' is where you go first. Interesting.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    No, it's racial. There are white Muslims all over the U.S... they don't get attacked. Even Sikhs get attacked more, just because they wear turbans and people are ignorant.

    Don't blame Islam. Blame the media. Most Muslims are just living their lives in peace like any other American. It doesn't give anyone the right to go light fire to a place of worship. All of the media should be held accountable. There is nothing but racist, hateful propaganda being spun on it.
    Seriously? "Blame the media" for people's decision to attack, fight, kill, set a blaze . . .
    I blame *individuals* because *they* are the ones who are in control of their selves, their minds, their actions - and they *chose* to do these things - they chose to act out and be a doucher.

    I've watched a lot of news and never once did I think "burn down their churches!" So I guess their subliminal messages aren't getting through to me. Am I watching the wrong channel?
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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Vicchio, the first thought most normal folks have is: "Thank God, no one was hurt."

    Speculating about 'Jewish (or Muslim) lightening' is where you go first. Interesting.
    What in the world are you basing this absurd suggestion on? Are you a mind reader Hazl. Did you magically peer into Mr V's head and determine what he actually thought? Or are you basing it off his first post. And if so, why the hypocritical condemnation and faux outrage not to mention the horribly innaccurate starting comment. I don't see you questioning the "Normal Folks" that spoke prior to Mr. V that happened to be on your side of the issues. You know, the ones whose first statements weren't about "thank god people got hurt" but instead:

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Is anyone truly surprised by this? Sadly, I can say I am not. When you appeal to peoples' baser instincts, someone will feel compelled to act as if they had support to commit this crime.
    Someone just wishing to use it to demonize people by implying those upset by the mosque in NYC helped compell it to happen through their words and actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No truer words than those. Reminds me of those idiots who bomb abortion clinics once in a while. They actually think they are righteous. They're nothing but thugs.
    Who uses it as a chance to immedietely tie it to Christian extremism.

    Quote Originally Posted by TennesseeRain View Post
    It was too close to ground zero.
    Who uses it as a chance to ridicule those that oppose the one in New York.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In a different time, you would see people like this at a lynching in Selma, Alabama, or throwing Jews into ovens in Germany. This is one of those situations where the FBI needs to come in, find those responsible, and throw them in prison for a long time on civil rights violations. Then these punks can share their beds with the skinheads and Neonazi gang members that are also there.
    Who proceeds to immedietely assume what happened and goes forward godwining the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    While I wish our political entertainers would be reponsible and tone down their silliness, free speech means we have to stomach their puke.
    Who uses it as a chance to blame political personalities.

    Yes, yes, we must fully and completely reserve or dire hatred and antipathy for Mr. V for DARING to express with his first thought/post his view of what it could be....because, you know, NO ONE else prior to him did that in any way shape or form and he in no way shape or form could've possibly been responding to accusations and assumptions other posteres were making.


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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    If I might add Zyphlin that I even expressed thanks that no one was killed on page 3, post #27. Furthermore, if my fast scan is correct, I'm the first one to even express thanks that there were no injuries.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's also true that people rush to assume it was anti-islamic bigotry, and the over the top "This reminds me of the 1960's church burnings" crap is uncalled for. IF IT IS some loon, then it's a lemantable act of hate, glad no one died. Now, if this starts happening in multiple places, THEN you an start making comparisons.
    Hazlnut's just not a very honest person.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Just pointing out that this wasn't just one occurrence.
    Right - not just one incident in history, but one incident in recent history - as opposed to the 9 churches in East Texas which I linked to. Subtle differences here - serial arson, bigoted arson, insurance fraud... for all we know it's kids, or it's white power nazi's, or it could be the construction company is going broke and needed the insurance money.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    It's also true that people rush to assume it was anti-islamic bigotry, and the over the top "This reminds me of the 1960's church burnings" crap is uncalled for. IF IT IS some loon, then it's a lamentable act of hate, glad no one died. Now, if this starts happening in multiple places, THEN you an start making comparisons.
    I think he's right, an investigation should be completed before ANYONE draws conclusions or speculates too far about anything. Just because there's a lot of anti-Islamic feelings in this country, both over 9/11 and the Mosque near the old WTC site, we shouldn't assume that this arson was motivated by the fact that it was a Mosque.

    HOWEVER, I think if I was a police officer or an investigator it would be the most logical place to start and if I was a betting man I'd bet the crime was motivated by some anti-Islamic feelings. We all have to admit that there are some very strong feelings regarding Islam in America among a lot of people, and it only takes ONE person to go over the edge for just a little way to burn down a building. I think its safe to say that without offending any feelings.

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    Re: Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson - CBS News

    Is anyone truly surprised by this? Sadly, I can say I am not. When you appeal to peoples' baser instincts, someone will feel compelled to act as if they had support to commit this crime.


    So you are assuming this is anti-muslim backlash? Tell me detective, did you rule out insurance fraud, a personal feud, disgruntled members of said mosque? Or are you simple doing the same thing you are accusing who you are speculating about of,
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